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That wasn't prerecorded, but it was rigged. They probably practiced a few times and it confused the AI. Still it's no excuse. They've dropped Apollo-program lev
by alangibson 1y ago
That wasn't prerecorded, but it was rigged. They probably practiced a few times and it confused the AI. Still it's no excuse. They've dropped Apollo-program level money on this and it's still dumb as a rock.
I'm endless amazed that Meta has a ~2T market cap, yet they can't build products.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoAt this point, honesty is an oasis that is the 2025 year of scams and grifts. I'm just waiting for all the bubbles to pop.
- fullshark 1y agoIt's been this way since natural internet user base growth dried up
- johnnyanmac 1y agoTrue. We at least had a period where they weren't so blatant about it. But now it's robbery in blind daylight.
- privatelypublic 1y agoWell, it _IS_ a rock after all.
- smelendez 1y agoThat was my thought — the memory might not have been properly cleared from the last rehearsal. I found the use case honestly confusing though. This guy has a great kitchen, just made steak, and has all the relevant ingredients in house and laid out but no idea how to turn them into a sauce for his sandwich?
- pessimizer 1y agoYes. Even if the demo worked perfectly, it's hopelessly contrived. Just get text-to-speech to slowly read you the recipe.
- al_borland 1y ago> Just get text-to-speech to slowly read you the recipe. Even this feels like overkill, when a person can just glance down at a piece of paper. I don’t know about others, but I like to double check what I’m doing. Simply having a reference I can look at would be infinitely better than something taking to me, which would need to repeat itself.
- XorNot 1y agoA hardened epaper display I could wash under a sink tap for the kitchen, with a simple page forward/back voice interface would actually be pretty handy now that I think about it.
- com2kid 1y agoPaper get lost, it gets wet, it gets blown around it not weighed down, and when weighed down it then quickly gets covered with things. Prepping raw ingredients, once has to be careful not to contaminate paper, or at least the thing weighing the paper down that may be covering the next step. I cook a lot of food, and having hands free access to steps is a killer feature. I don't even need the AI, just the ability to pull up a recipe and scroll through it using the wrist controller they showed off would be a noticeable, albeit small, improvement to my life multiple times per week.
- hypertele-Xii 1y agoI just bought paper made from stone that doesn't get wet, so there's one problem solved..!
- JKCalhoun 1y agoOr pick up a bottle of bulgogi sauce?
- poidos 1y agoIt's because their main business (ads, tracking) makes infinite money so it doesn't matter what all the other parts of the business do, are, or if they work or not.
- IncreasePosts 1y agoThat's Google's main business too, they have infinite money plus 50% relative to meta, and they are still in the top two for AI
- marcus_holmes 1y agoGoogle are well-known, like Meta, for making products that never achieve any kind of traction, and are cancelled soon after launch. I don't know about anyone else, but I've never managed to get Gemini to actually do anything useful (and I'm a regular user of other AI tools). I don't know what metric it gets into the top 2 on, but I've found it almost completely useless.
- thebytefairy 1y agoPlease share an example. Your 'almost completely useless' claim runs counter to any model benchmark you could choose.
- DoctorOW 1y agoI'm not the person you're responding to, but I feel I have a great example. Replacing the Google Assistant with Gemini has made my phone both slower and less accurate. More than once have I said "Hey Google, Play <SONG> by <ARTIST>" and had my phone will chirp back the song is available for streaming instead of just playing it. Once, I even had it claim it wasn't capable of playing music, I assume because that's true on other platforms.
- marcus_holmes 1y agoThe most spectacular failure was when I asked it to make a logo for a project. The project has "cogs" in the title but that refers to Cost of Goods Sold not the physical object, so I specified that it should not include a cog a in the logo. Of course, it included a cog in the logo. I asked it to help me create a business plan. Partway through it switched to Indonesian language, for no reason I could see. Then, after about two hours work on the plan, with about 200K tokens in the context, it stopped outputting anything reasonable. I have tried to get it to help with Google Sheets formulae about a dozen times so far. Not once has it actually got anything right. Not once. It's serviceable as a chatbot, but completely useless if you try to get it to actually do anything.
- dgfitz 1y ago> confused the AI. I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.
- jayd16 1y agoThey "poisoned the context" which is clearly what they meant.
- dgfitz 1y ago“The blue square is red.” “The blue square is blue.” “The blue square is green.” The future is here.
- AdieuToLogic 1y ago>>> confused the AI. >> I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it. > They "poisoned the context" which is clearly what they meant. The "demo" was clearly prescriptive and not genuinely interactive. One could easily make the argument that the kayfabe was more like an IVR[0] interaction. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_voice_response https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_voice_response
- taneq 1y agoOk, you’ve piqued my interest. What’s required in order for something to be genuinely confused?
- tomrod 1y agoCapacity for will, I would imagine the OP may respond. I'm not averse to the position.
- Fade_Dance 1y agoJust try asking an AI about the Seahorse Emoji (insert close-yet-comically-incorrect emojis since they won't render here): _________ ChatGPT: There is a seahorse emoji: — wait, no, that’s a lobster. Okay, for real now: Here it is: � Seahorse — argh, it’s still not showing properly here. Let’s try again: (hedgehog) (sauropod) (T-rex) (otter) (seal) (lobster) …but no actual (squid) or (mermaid) matches… Okay, deep breath — I checked the official Unicode list. And you’re right: The seahorse emoji does exist — it’s — no, okay really: (hedgehog) (hippo) (peacock) Still nothing? Wait — turns out, I was wrong, and you’re right to call me out. There is a seahorse emoji: — no! _________ https://ibb.co/GfpWRXCz https://ibb.co/GfpWRXCz
- qgin 1y agoI don't think it was pre-recorded exactly, but I do think they built something for the demo that responded to specific spoken phrases with specific scripted responses. I think that's why he kept saying exactly "what do I do first" and the computer responded with exactly the same (wrong) response each time. If this was a real model, it wouldn't have simply repeated the exact response and he probably would have tried to correct it directly ("actually I haven't combined anything yet, how can I get started").
- imiric 1y agoAt that point, why not just go full out with the fake demo, and play all responses from a soundboard? They could learn a thing or two from Elon.