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And its flagged. The country may be collapsing but don't worry. Hackernews' anti controversy systems will ensure nothing gets to the front page to force you t

And its flagged. The country may be collapsing but don't worry. Hackernews' anti controversy systems will ensure nothing gets to the front page to force you to confront anything uncomfortable

saubeidl 1y ago
It's not just anti-controversy systems. It's deliberate censorship efforts by digital brownshirts.
sidibe 1y ago
The YC leadership is the people doing the collapsing. Theyve been living for Elon retweets and replies for a while
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  Source?
  - walls 1y ago
    The front page of this site. Just look at what dang goes out of his way to make sure stays up.
  - sidibe 1y ago
    Follow Garry Tan on X
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > Follow Garry Tan on X ...do you have an example? I have no interest in following him. Also, Gary Tan resembles Elon Musk perhaps only in their shared political ineptitude. (Unlike Musk, Tan seems to be aware of this limitation.)
    - Talanes 1y ago
      Not everyone can do that, some of use were blocked by him before we'd ever heard his name.
mitch3x3 1y ago
[flagged]
- jleyank 1y ago
  Isn’t it easier to just put your fingers in your ears, shut your eyes, and go la-la-la? Some of us prefer to see what’s going on, particularly when the HN community might be people making the situation worse. Not every bit of software is helpful, and “data”in the wrong hands can be fatal.
  - cloverich 1y ago
    That's literally every other site. The reason you can't see high quality HN style comments on those sites, is because they don't block stuff like this. And quality goes exactly where you'd expect. You can't get quality commentary on charged political topics on a mostly unmoderated online forum. You need dedicated groups and in depth moderation. Like it or not life does go on regardless of political complex and so long as we're working, we need more than _just_ politics in our news feeds. That's what HN is.
  - Jensson 1y ago
    > Some of us prefer to see what’s going on And you can see that anywhere else, why should every site talk about the same things?
    - saubeidl 1y ago
      Because American democracy is literally being dismantled as we speak???
      - Jensson 1y ago
        But this event was already covered, there is no need to also have this opinion piece as well. You can just read this thread which isn't flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45282482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45282482
      - 1y ago
josefresco 1y ago
3rd Active thread today flagged: Others: Trump designates anti-fascist Antifa movement as a terrorist organization https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-targets-antifa-movement-terrorist-organization-2025-09-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-targets-antifa-moveme... UC Berkeley gives personal information for 150 students and staff to government https://www.dailycal.org/news/campus/uc-berkeley-turns-over-personal-information-of-more-than-150-students-and-staff-to-federal/article_a4aad3e1-bbba-42cc-92d7-a7964d9641c5.html https://www.dailycal.org/news/campus/uc-berkeley-turns-over-...
- spwa4 1y ago
  > UC Berkeley gives personal information for 150 students and staff to government ... Why is this being argued as a bad thing? If there is one constant in even mild socialism it's that government has access (and uses) everyone's data, exactly for the reason Trump is using it. This happens, as a matter of course, where I'm from (Northwest Europe). Oh and sure, when I was studying it was mostly to find actual fascists (you know, actually openly pro-Hitler), but I've been told this has expanded. Schools are far from the only ones who do this, the government "youth houses" do the same (report the political ideas of everyone who comes by to the police commissioner. They have forms and everything. Extremists or thieves are to be reported immediately). Same with any kind of social support. Only the rich get to be fascist.
m-watson 1y ago
I would love to see dang weigh in here just out of curiosity AND see how many people or if people are using the vouch mechanism if they can. Because this post doesn't have an insignificant upvote count and has actual conversation happening in the comments.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
  > if people are using the vouch mechanism if they can Nobody can vouch the post right now because it is not [dead]. At this point, if one wants the flag to be removed, the only way is to email hn@ycombinator.com for them to remove it manually at their discretion. > Because this post doesn't have an insignificant upvote count and has actual conversation happening in the comments. This isn't really relevant to the post being [flagged]. That happens when enough people click "flag" on the post. It will go to [flagged][dead] first, then people can vouch and it will drop them both, then, if more people flag it, it will become [flagged] again. It might be more complicated than that but I've seen that pattern a fair amount and I'm pretty sure the only way for a post to be [flagged] is for it to be, well, flagged.
  - m-watson 1y ago
    Thanks for that I was mistaken about how the vouch process worked. I thought vouching could work for flagged as well since fagged can lead to removal.
- uncircle 1y ago
  Don't use the vouch mechanism, it's a trap. I've had it disabled on my other account because I vouched "flame-bait" and thus I was revoked of the privileges, as dang explained to me via email, and I quote: "we took vouching privileges away from your account because you vouched for too many comments that were unsubstantive and/or flamebait and/or otherwise broke the site guidelines" The Hacker News stance of "users can flag posts, it's none of our doing" I bet is a complete fabrication, and it's conveniently used by the moderators to hide hot-button topics. Not saying that's necessarily bad, but I feel the moderation team could be a little more honest with their "censorship" process, instead of trying to convince us it's all an organic, user-driven process. You can vouch these posts at your own risk; just make sure you toe the party line, or you'll have the privilege revoked.
JumpCrisscross 1y ago
HN’s active page [1] is uneditorialised. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active
- ubiquitysc 1y ago
  And hidden from the top bar
  - kasey_junk 1y ago
    It’s one of many views available that are resented on the lists link in the footer.
- Fizzadar 1y ago
  The real homepage
RickJWagner 1y ago
[flagged]

And its flagged. The country may be collapsing but don't worry. Hackernews' anti controversy systems will ensure nothing gets to the front page to force you to confront anything uncomfortable

saubeidl 1y ago

It's not just anti-controversy systems. It's deliberate censorship efforts by digital brownshirts.

sidibe 1y ago

The YC leadership is the people doing the collapsing. Theyve been living for Elon retweets and replies for a while

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
Source?
- walls 1y ago
  The front page of this site. Just look at what dang goes out of his way to make sure stays up.
- sidibe 1y ago
  Follow Garry Tan on X
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > Follow Garry Tan on X ...do you have an example? I have no interest in following him. Also, Gary Tan resembles Elon Musk perhaps only in their shared political ineptitude. (Unlike Musk, Tan seems to be aware of this limitation.)
  - Talanes 1y ago
    Not everyone can do that, some of use were blocked by him before we'd ever heard his name.

mitch3x3 1y ago

[flagged]

jleyank 1y ago
Isn’t it easier to just put your fingers in your ears, shut your eyes, and go la-la-la? Some of us prefer to see what’s going on, particularly when the HN community might be people making the situation worse. Not every bit of software is helpful, and “data”in the wrong hands can be fatal.
- cloverich 1y ago
  That's literally every other site. The reason you can't see high quality HN style comments on those sites, is because they don't block stuff like this. And quality goes exactly where you'd expect. You can't get quality commentary on charged political topics on a mostly unmoderated online forum. You need dedicated groups and in depth moderation. Like it or not life does go on regardless of political complex and so long as we're working, we need more than _just_ politics in our news feeds. That's what HN is.
- Jensson 1y ago
  > Some of us prefer to see what’s going on And you can see that anywhere else, why should every site talk about the same things?
  - saubeidl 1y ago
    Because American democracy is literally being dismantled as we speak???
    - Jensson 1y ago
      But this event was already covered, there is no need to also have this opinion piece as well. You can just read this thread which isn't flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45282482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45282482
    - 1y ago

josefresco 1y ago

3rd Active thread today flagged: Others: Trump designates anti-fascist Antifa movement as a terrorist organization https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-targets-antifa-movement-terrorist-organization-2025-09-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-targets-antifa-moveme... UC Berkeley gives personal information for 150 students and staff to government https://www.dailycal.org/news/campus/uc-berkeley-turns-over-personal-information-of-more-than-150-students-and-staff-to-federal/article_a4aad3e1-bbba-42cc-92d7-a7964d9641c5.html https://www.dailycal.org/news/campus/uc-berkeley-turns-over-...

spwa4 1y ago
> UC Berkeley gives personal information for 150 students and staff to government ... Why is this being argued as a bad thing? If there is one constant in even mild socialism it's that government has access (and uses) everyone's data, exactly for the reason Trump is using it. This happens, as a matter of course, where I'm from (Northwest Europe). Oh and sure, when I was studying it was mostly to find actual fascists (you know, actually openly pro-Hitler), but I've been told this has expanded. Schools are far from the only ones who do this, the government "youth houses" do the same (report the political ideas of everyone who comes by to the police commissioner. They have forms and everything. Extremists or thieves are to be reported immediately). Same with any kind of social support. Only the rich get to be fascist.

m-watson 1y ago

I would love to see dang weigh in here just out of curiosity AND see how many people or if people are using the vouch mechanism if they can. Because this post doesn't have an insignificant upvote count and has actual conversation happening in the comments.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
> if people are using the vouch mechanism if they can Nobody can vouch the post right now because it is not [dead]. At this point, if one wants the flag to be removed, the only way is to email hn@ycombinator.com for them to remove it manually at their discretion. > Because this post doesn't have an insignificant upvote count and has actual conversation happening in the comments. This isn't really relevant to the post being [flagged]. That happens when enough people click "flag" on the post. It will go to [flagged][dead] first, then people can vouch and it will drop them both, then, if more people flag it, it will become [flagged] again. It might be more complicated than that but I've seen that pattern a fair amount and I'm pretty sure the only way for a post to be [flagged] is for it to be, well, flagged.
- m-watson 1y ago
  Thanks for that I was mistaken about how the vouch process worked. I thought vouching could work for flagged as well since fagged can lead to removal.
uncircle 1y ago
Don't use the vouch mechanism, it's a trap. I've had it disabled on my other account because I vouched "flame-bait" and thus I was revoked of the privileges, as dang explained to me via email, and I quote: "we took vouching privileges away from your account because you vouched for too many comments that were unsubstantive and/or flamebait and/or otherwise broke the site guidelines" The Hacker News stance of "users can flag posts, it's none of our doing" I bet is a complete fabrication, and it's conveniently used by the moderators to hide hot-button topics. Not saying that's necessarily bad, but I feel the moderation team could be a little more honest with their "censorship" process, instead of trying to convince us it's all an organic, user-driven process. You can vouch these posts at your own risk; just make sure you toe the party line, or you'll have the privilege revoked.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

HN’s active page [1] is uneditorialised. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active

ubiquitysc 1y ago
And hidden from the top bar
- kasey_junk 1y ago
  It’s one of many views available that are resented on the lists link in the footer.
Fizzadar 1y ago
The real homepage

RickJWagner 1y ago

[flagged]