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It's a chat app. How much traffic can there be? Just hobble the high bandwidth functionalities for non paying instances and be done with it. I find it quite har

It's a chat app. How much traffic can there be? Just hobble the high bandwidth functionalities for non paying instances and be done with it. I find it quite hard to justify the way Slack is behaving.

ceejayoz 1y ago
It's a "chat app" that includes large file uploads, video calls, and whatnot.
- quentindanjou 1y ago
  Its true but then again, they could provide tiers that restrict large file upload, video calls etc. I think most of the businesses using Slack are unlikely using their video call system (and more likely to use Zoom, Teams, Google Meet). Most organizations use Slack for its organized messaging system; maybe they should make plans that focus on that. They try to pack more and more features and realize that when their customers start using these, it costs them money.
- RealityVoid 1y ago
  Yes. I already address that in my post. Block the features the use bandwidth. Them keeping the _chat logs_ history hidden has nothing to do with bandwidth costs. They store the data, they already pay for that, and it's not that large to begin with. The reason they do this is to hold you hostage so you have to pay them a ton of cash. It's extortion. You can defend it all you want, but they're all pretexts, not the real reason.
  - jama211 1y ago
    Right? The fact that you can’t keep a local copy of the history at all times is seriously telling.
jcul 1y ago
Not quite, even the name is based on "Searchable Log of All Conversation and Knowledge". The value for me is in the search, recall, history. If it was just a chat app I'd much sooner use matrix or IRC.
- RealityVoid 1y ago
  > search, recall, history. Search, recall, history... of what more exactly? Of... could it be.. _chat_ logs?
  - jcul 1y ago
    It is essentially, chat logs and shared files. With filters for things like I said it in a thread with person X, on this date, and it had a link etc. That with a quick and easy UI. I don't think there's anything stopping someone implementing a powerful search like that over IRC logs, or matrix logs or whatever. Just that slack were the ones who did it, and marketed it well so it took off. Saying that, if I was launching a project or startup I probably would not choose to use slack.

It's a chat app. How much traffic can there be? Just hobble the high bandwidth functionalities for non paying instances and be done with it. I find it quite hard to justify the way Slack is behaving.

ceejayoz 1y ago

It's a "chat app" that includes large file uploads, video calls, and whatnot.

quentindanjou 1y ago
Its true but then again, they could provide tiers that restrict large file upload, video calls etc. I think most of the businesses using Slack are unlikely using their video call system (and more likely to use Zoom, Teams, Google Meet). Most organizations use Slack for its organized messaging system; maybe they should make plans that focus on that. They try to pack more and more features and realize that when their customers start using these, it costs them money.
RealityVoid 1y ago
Yes. I already address that in my post. Block the features the use bandwidth. Them keeping the _chat logs_ history hidden has nothing to do with bandwidth costs. They store the data, they already pay for that, and it's not that large to begin with. The reason they do this is to hold you hostage so you have to pay them a ton of cash. It's extortion. You can defend it all you want, but they're all pretexts, not the real reason.
- jama211 1y ago
  Right? The fact that you can’t keep a local copy of the history at all times is seriously telling.

jcul 1y ago

Not quite, even the name is based on "Searchable Log of All Conversation and Knowledge". The value for me is in the search, recall, history. If it was just a chat app I'd much sooner use matrix or IRC.

RealityVoid 1y ago
> search, recall, history. Search, recall, history... of what more exactly? Of... could it be.. _chat_ logs?
- jcul 1y ago
  It is essentially, chat logs and shared files. With filters for things like I said it in a thread with person X, on this date, and it had a link etc. That with a quick and easy UI. I don't think there's anything stopping someone implementing a powerful search like that over IRC logs, or matrix logs or whatever. Just that slack were the ones who did it, and marketed it well so it took off. Saying that, if I was launching a project or startup I probably would not choose to use slack.