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This guy has built a completely silent version: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/monochrome-2-my-custom-fanless-7-5-l-strix-halo-system-completed.2017

This guy has built a completely silent version: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/monochrome-2-my-custom-fanless-7-5-l-strix-halo-system-completed.20177/ https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/monochrome-2-my-cu...

jeffbee 1y ago
That's a very cool hack, but there are tons of things on a system that aren't the CPU that would benefit from some moving air. A fan somewhere in the system that just moves a bit of air would, I think, really contribute to the overall longevity.
- solodolo 1y ago
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- whalesalad 1y ago
  Would be wicked if it was one of those passive cooling systems that create movement of air just via temperature differentials
  - wkat4242 1y ago
    That wouldn't necessarily be silent though.
    - ses1984 1y ago
      It’s more likely to be quieter than a fan.
    - PeterStuer 1y ago
      Passive convection flows would not be audible.
- bryanlarsen 1y ago
  phones and iPads are similar and can get fairly hot, and they last a very long time if you replace the battery occasionally.
  - jeffbee 1y ago
    I don't think there are power supplies in an iphone that need to output 120W.
    - bryanlarsen 1y ago
      It's the temperature that matters here, not the wattage.
      - jeffbee 1y ago
        The one tends to cause the other. There aren't any FETs anywhere in an iPhone that are passing 100A continuously. In any case, it's designed for that situation, whereas the Framework Desktop is designed under the presumption of the presence of a fan.
  - masklinn 1y ago
    Phones and tablets are designed for passive cooling. And not always well to boot, but you can at least assume they didn’t design for elements with ancillary active cooling.
cloudbonsai 1y ago
This is pretty cool. His design seems to be able to handle the full iGPU loads too: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/monochrome-2-my-custom-fanless-7-5-l-strix-halo-system-completed.20177/page-2#post-294183 https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/monochrome-2-my-cu... His trick is to use a number of heat pipes (that transfer the heat through vaporization), and a really really big heat sink (a 5kg copper plate).
- darkwater 1y ago
  Which goes to 76°C if you run the PC at full load for a couple of hours. I prefer a little noise than burning myself.
  - askonomm 1y ago
    76 is bad? My AMD Ryzen 9 7950X CPU frequently touches 90C whenever I play games or do heavy load stuff.
    - iLoveOncall 1y ago
      The whole black part of the case is for cooling if I understand correctly, so compared to your computer where the CPU can reach 90+ but the case stays at most warm, there the whole case reaches 70+ degrees.
      - CharlieIsAHero 1y ago
        It would be 70+ at the die. The heat would dissipate. It would be hot. But not 70+ degrees hot.
        smallerize 1y ago
        https://i.imgur.com/3DdP6aX.png https://i.imgur.com/3DdP6aX.png
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rkagerer 1y ago
Thanks! I love Noctua but this is even more interesting than the article here.

jeffbee 1y ago

That's a very cool hack, but there are tons of things on a system that aren't the CPU that would benefit from some moving air. A fan somewhere in the system that just moves a bit of air would, I think, really contribute to the overall longevity.

solodolo 1y ago
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whalesalad 1y ago
Would be wicked if it was one of those passive cooling systems that create movement of air just via temperature differentials
- wkat4242 1y ago
  That wouldn't necessarily be silent though.
  - ses1984 1y ago
    It’s more likely to be quieter than a fan.
  - PeterStuer 1y ago
    Passive convection flows would not be audible.
bryanlarsen 1y ago
phones and iPads are similar and can get fairly hot, and they last a very long time if you replace the battery occasionally.
- jeffbee 1y ago
  I don't think there are power supplies in an iphone that need to output 120W.
  - bryanlarsen 1y ago
    It's the temperature that matters here, not the wattage.
    - jeffbee 1y ago
      The one tends to cause the other. There aren't any FETs anywhere in an iPhone that are passing 100A continuously. In any case, it's designed for that situation, whereas the Framework Desktop is designed under the presumption of the presence of a fan.
- masklinn 1y ago
  Phones and tablets are designed for passive cooling. And not always well to boot, but you can at least assume they didn’t design for elements with ancillary active cooling.

cloudbonsai 1y ago

This is pretty cool. His design seems to be able to handle the full iGPU loads too: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/monochrome-2-my-custom-fanless-7-5-l-strix-halo-system-completed.20177/page-2#post-294183 https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/monochrome-2-my-cu... His trick is to use a number of heat pipes (that transfer the heat through vaporization), and a really really big heat sink (a 5kg copper plate).

darkwater 1y ago
Which goes to 76°C if you run the PC at full load for a couple of hours. I prefer a little noise than burning myself.
- askonomm 1y ago
  76 is bad? My AMD Ryzen 9 7950X CPU frequently touches 90C whenever I play games or do heavy load stuff.
  - iLoveOncall 1y ago
    The whole black part of the case is for cooling if I understand correctly, so compared to your computer where the CPU can reach 90+ but the case stays at most warm, there the whole case reaches 70+ degrees.
    - CharlieIsAHero 1y ago
      It would be 70+ at the die. The heat would dissipate. It would be hot. But not 70+ degrees hot.
      - smallerize 1y ago
        https://i.imgur.com/3DdP6aX.png https://i.imgur.com/3DdP6aX.png
        deleted 1y ago

rkagerer 1y ago

Thanks! I love Noctua but this is even more interesting than the article here.