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AP Live: View from Gaza as Israel Begins Expanded Operation in Gaza City
- zahirbmirza 1y agoForced Displacement.
- austin-cheney 1y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_displacement https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_displacement When forced displacement is paired with food/starvation as a weapon it becomes a genocide. The recent senate report just carefully labels it as a deliberate ethnic cleansing. https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/van_hollen_merkley_report_following_2025_codel_to_gaza_border_israel_west_bank_jordan_and_egypt.pdf https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/van_hollen_me...
- 3seashells 1y ago[dead]
- n1b0m 1y agoAlso a UN commission of inquiry. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/israel-committed-genocide-in-gaza-says-un-inquiry https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/israel-committ...
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoUS's & Germany's greatest ally.
- throw9032Xx 1y agoCurrent US president wants to build golf resorts with golden statues of himself! If anything, US citizens who emigrated to Israel, have great share of responsibility!
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago>If anything, US citizens who emigrated to Israel, have great share of responsibility! What about AIPAC members? Which is about 80% of congress.
- asim 1y agoIt is officially declared a genocide by the UN commission. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoThe UN is just a glorified board room for countries to discuss things, it has no executive powers over its permanent security council members and their allies. Basically, the UN can declare whatever they want, but there's nothing stopping the likes of US and Russia to ignore it and do the opposite of that. It's the League of Nations all over again. Nothing has been learned.
- crinkly 1y agoIt also spent the last few years making the problems out there worse. They are themselves complicit in this outcome. There are no winners in this conflict on either side.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago>There are no winners in this conflict on either side. There is ONE winner here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
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- the_gipsy 1y agoI think we all know this, it's very obvious. What is crazy is that, even a denouncement, is coming way too late. Now some countries are, very slowly, starting to talk about what this is: a genocide. It's horrible that it's so slow, and there is so much support or inaction towards the state of Israel.
- oulipo2 1y agoStill, IT IS A GENOCIDE.
- karel-3d 1y agoWhere do they got internet connectivity? I know there is Paltel in West Bank; but I don't know if they are still operating in Gaza.
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoStarlink?
- karel-3d 1y agoIsn't that too slow for live feed? The live feed looks very good quality, and they look like they are sitting in a truck now, so I doubt they can cary starlink antenna
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- nicholasbraker 1y agoIt's bandwidth versus latency. Two different aspects. A live feed going one way works fine over a high('ish) bandwidth link as long as there's no need for interactive (back-and-forth) traffic. See it as a highway. The highway can be very wide with lots of lanes (=bandwidth) but to get from point A to B can cover a large distance (latency)
- crinkly 1y agoJawwal who are owned by Paltel.
- anonu 1y agoWe will look back at this moment in our history and wonder how we let it happen.
- internet_points 1y agoWhat can we do, in addition to what we're already doing? For example, in Norway, the recently elected leading coalition is (mostly) very vocal about ending the genocide. And the sovereign oil fund just divested out of quite a lot of the genocide-profiteers (including Caterpillar, who sell displacement-as-a-service, leading to threats of more tariffs from the US). And there are flotillas of activists trying again and again to sail with aid towards the Gaza strip, getting themselves attacked by drones (even in Tunisian waters, long before reaching Gaza). We donate to savethechildren etc. but most of the aid isn't even allowed in. This is not a case of "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". The enemies of humanity, decency and righteousness are just so overwhelmingly strong.
- crinkly 1y ago[flagged]
- tguvot 1y agoyou could for example send international force in order to deal with hamas occupation of gaza in a "civilized way, the one that Israel doesn't know how to execute", rescue hostages and to distribute aid to civilians. but I guess it's easier to just issue proclamations that Israel doesn't do things right. and make "recognition of state of palestine without hamas". where exactly hamas going to go ? evaporate ?
- the_gipsy 1y agoGenocide live stream. What a time to be alive.
- throw9032Xx 1y agoIt is not safe to flee south of Gaza, there is no infrastructure there to support millions of refugees! Refugees should go to Israel, it is much better equip to host refugees from this conflict! NO BORDERS!!
- oulipo2 1y agoThis is a GENOCIDE There is no other word
- zorobo 1y agoNot to diminish, but there would be more Armenians, jews, Cambodians, Tutsi, koulaks if all genocides were like this.
- oulipo2 1y agoYou're actually actively trying to diminish. I'm going to be nice to you and pretend it's because you don't know the definition of genocide and that it isn't linked to the number of dead people
- machina_ex_deus 1y ago[flagged]
- crinkly 1y ago[flagged]
- ben_w 1y agoI say this because I do care about you and your continued existence. When the October attack happened, much of the west outpoured grief and empathy for Israel. I knew then what was coming, because I have seen it before, just over two decades ago: that attack hurt Israel more, proportionally, than 9/11 hurt the USA. You, personally, are burning with pain and anger today, it is natural and human if you don't even want to hear a single word that would humanise the Other. And yet, you are wrong: this is not, and never was, an existential threat to Israel, and that's why Europe is doing things to hold Israel back in Palestine while still supporting Israel against Iran. To be human is to strike out in anger and vengeance and also look back in shame a generation later when your kids show you today's newspapers and say "you knew". I know why it feels existential, history is replete with examples, but Israel is simply much stronger than Hamas ever was, even with the external support that Hamas gets that in turn makes it entirely justifiable for Israel to totally blockade Palestine (or would, if enough food was getting through). It took the USA more than a decade to get out of their own way with 9/11, it would be unreasonable to see Israel's national psyche do so any faster. Just as with the Taliban in the USA, all of Hamas are to the nation of Israel as a few angry wasps are to a picnic: when they sting, they hurt, and you may come up in welts, but it would take hundreds or thousands of them to meaningfully injure their target. Europe doesn't want Israel to become the same monsters that killed so many millions just on the edge of living memory. Well, most of us don't, at least; it was a sad and slow realisation that plenty of people who give no shits about the Palestinians will still cry crocodile tears for them if it means hurting Israel. Unfortunately for Israel, some of the latter group are gaining power in the USA, and if the USA becomes Israel's last ally… well, that has potential to become genuinely existential.
- machina_ex_deus 1y ago
- aussieguy1234 1y agoIsrael really doesn't like being exposed like this. They'll claim it's a Hamas camera, then bomb it, probably killing some of the people nearby it.
- dogma1138 1y agoThe camera is filming from within Israel.
- The-Old-Hacker 1y agoThere's another camera in Wadi Gaza showing people fleeing northern Gaza toward the south. From about 1h26m onwards.
- aussieguy1234 1y agoyep, this is the one that I saw. There is another one in Isreal itself which is a smart move, no way will they bomb that.
- donkeybeer 1y ago>no way will they bomb that. Are you sure?
- aussieguy1234 1y agoI doubt they would bomb their own country.
- donkeybeer 1y agoI doubt that doubt. They have had no trouble shooting their own hostages.
- gerjomarty 1y agoThis video feed feels like I'm watching some Adam Curtis b-roll live. Currently the camera, based in Israel, is panning across the land to catch explosions as the plumes of smoke rise, with people talking, music from the radio, or occassional car doors closing in the background.
- NaomiLehman 1y agoAlso, this got flagged. Weird.
- tempodox 1y agoCan’t let reality ruin the mood.
- zahirbmirza 1y agoDear Moderators Please could you reconsider the designation of this post as being flagged? I will happily trust your judgement and conclusions. Live feeds from this region are very rare. This insight is not covered on most outlets. It is a subject seemingly of interest to this forum as illustrated by the engagement and upvotes; greater than most of my posts. Thank you so much.
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- _DeadFred_ 1y agoDiscussions I have seen on this topic users flag people's responses that they don't like. This site isn't structured for that sort of 'discussion'. The other current related one already has multiple responses flagged dead. I know I don't attempt to post on these discussions anymore other than pointing this out.