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They admit > Flatpak is currently a pretty poor technology for system-level apps that want deep integration with the base system. Therefore they ship those ap

by 1una 1y ago

They admit > Flatpak is currently a pretty poor technology for system-level apps that want deep integration with the base system. Therefore they ship those apps on the base image, rather than as Flatpaks. I don’t see what’s wrong with this approach.

vbezhenar 1y ago
KDE Ark is a graphical file compression/decompression utility. It's not system app and does not require deep integration with the base system. It's a bit strange choice of apps to include to system image.
- rollcat 1y ago
  Which is odd. Windows was able to browse ZIPs like normal folders since... 98? XP? Can't remember now. IMHO KDE delegates too much core functionality to apps. On macOS, I can press "space" while having a file selected and I get an instant preview. This sort of thing must not be delegated.
  - const_cast 1y ago
    Is this true? I was under the impression windows wasn't able to decompress zip files natively till very recently, like windows 11. I could be remembering wrong.
    - IshKebab 1y ago
      Yeah it's been supported since at least Windows 7. I think XP sounds about right.
    - TiredOfLife 1y ago
      Windows millenium was first to bundle. The recent update to 11 added libarchive integration with bunch of formats
- bmicraft 1y ago
  At the very least it does add context menu entries for compression to files, apart from "open with" obviously. That might already the reason right there.
  - IshKebab 1y ago
    So I can't install an app that adds context menu entries? I can do that on Windows.
    - bmicraft 1y ago
      Yeah obviously. Windows let's everybody and their dog write into the registry. Which goes completely against the kind of immutable and sandboxed system that KDE Linux intends to be.
    - efreak 1y ago
      That likely depends on the desktop environment. I have packages installed on my steam deck that add context menu entries, so clearly it's not impossible (my system still remains read-only, though I've been thinking about using an overlay like rwfus to get some new native packages, due to annoyance of self-management of self-built and downloaded ~/.local stuff)

by 1una 1y ago

vbezhenar 1y ago

KDE Ark is a graphical file compression/decompression utility. It's not system app and does not require deep integration with the base system. It's a bit strange choice of apps to include to system image.

rollcat 1y ago
Which is odd. Windows was able to browse ZIPs like normal folders since... 98? XP? Can't remember now. IMHO KDE delegates too much core functionality to apps. On macOS, I can press "space" while having a file selected and I get an instant preview. This sort of thing must not be delegated.
- const_cast 1y ago
  Is this true? I was under the impression windows wasn't able to decompress zip files natively till very recently, like windows 11. I could be remembering wrong.
  - IshKebab 1y ago
    Yeah it's been supported since at least Windows 7. I think XP sounds about right.
  - TiredOfLife 1y ago
    Windows millenium was first to bundle. The recent update to 11 added libarchive integration with bunch of formats
bmicraft 1y ago
At the very least it does add context menu entries for compression to files, apart from "open with" obviously. That might already the reason right there.
- IshKebab 1y ago
  So I can't install an app that adds context menu entries? I can do that on Windows.
  - bmicraft 1y ago
    Yeah obviously. Windows let's everybody and their dog write into the registry. Which goes completely against the kind of immutable and sandboxed system that KDE Linux intends to be.
  - efreak 1y ago
    That likely depends on the desktop environment. I have packages installed on my steam deck that add context menu entries, so clearly it's not impossible (my system still remains read-only, though I've been thinking about using an overlay like rwfus to get some new native packages, due to annoyance of self-management of self-built and downloaded ~/.local stuff)