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> Political violence cannot be deterred with strict gun laws. Definitely, considering what is happening in Nepal ATM. However, some kind of ban on gun supply (

> Political violence cannot be deterred with strict gun laws. Definitely, considering what is happening in Nepal ATM. However, some kind of ban on gun supply (not just controlling them) definitely has an impact on your country's murder rate. You can't just expect 20 million guns produced in the USA for consumers not to get in the hands of people who want to do bad things with them. Really, I would be happy if they just lowered that number a lot (to say 1 million) without any other gun control laws, the murder rate across the whole continent would fall.

slt2021 1y ago
or just jail criminals El Salvador style. Bukele showed us that having a high crime environment is a policy choice, an explicit policy chosen by the government
- seanmcdirmid 1y ago
  Police state measures are only temporary, El Salvador can't sustain a 2% incarceration rate forever.
  - pjc50 1y ago
    Doesn't the US have something like a 3% incarceration rate already, for years?
    - seanmcdirmid 1y ago
      You just have to use search no? El Salvador: Rate: Over 1,000 per 100,000 residents as of early 2024, with a specific rate of 1,659 per 100,000 in March 2024. USA: The U.S. incarceration rate was approximately 541 per 100,000 residents in 2022, with nearly two million people in state or federal prisons and local jails. The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate among independent democracies and is home to the world's largest prison population. (we don't get a rate for 2024, but it probably hasn't grown much since then)
    - wpm 1y ago
      Is it sustainable?
- crooked-v 1y ago
  Criminals, plus the other (and this is a very lowball number) 50,000+ people incarcerated for life with no due process. El Salvador has incarcated 2.5% of the entire adult population, most of those in sham mass trials where an entire group of people get marched through the same kangaroo court with no individual legal process.

slt2021 1y ago

or just jail criminals El Salvador style. Bukele showed us that having a high crime environment is a policy choice, an explicit policy chosen by the government

seanmcdirmid 1y ago
Police state measures are only temporary, El Salvador can't sustain a 2% incarceration rate forever.
- pjc50 1y ago
  Doesn't the US have something like a 3% incarceration rate already, for years?
  - seanmcdirmid 1y ago
    You just have to use search no? El Salvador: Rate: Over 1,000 per 100,000 residents as of early 2024, with a specific rate of 1,659 per 100,000 in March 2024. USA: The U.S. incarceration rate was approximately 541 per 100,000 residents in 2022, with nearly two million people in state or federal prisons and local jails. The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate among independent democracies and is home to the world's largest prison population. (we don't get a rate for 2024, but it probably hasn't grown much since then)
  - wpm 1y ago
    Is it sustainable?
crooked-v 1y ago
Criminals, plus the other (and this is a very lowball number) 50,000+ people incarcerated for life with no due process. El Salvador has incarcated 2.5% of the entire adult population, most of those in sham mass trials where an entire group of people get marched through the same kangaroo court with no individual legal process.