3 ms·
no thanks, I don't fancy dodging 120mph robots when I'm crossing the road, or breathing in the extra pollution that this would create (even if its an EV!)
by techterrier 1y ago
no thanks, I don't fancy dodging 120mph robots when I'm crossing the road, or breathing in the extra pollution that this would create (even if its an EV!)
- riffraff 1y agoI think you misinterpreted, OP meant that robots will respect the rules, which humans typically don't, e.g. driving at 50 where the limit is 30.
- cyanydeez 1y agoyes, but no. Yes, they'll do it for now. No, once they're as normal as humans, they'll definitely be tweaked to maximize profit. And that will include as much speeding as risk/reward dictates. So yeah, they'll do the same thing as humans eventually.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> that will include as much speeding as risk/reward dictates Speeding can usually be brushed off as carelessness. Where it can’t, we charge it more harshly. A robot programmed to speed serves a jury mens rea on a plate.
- techterrier 1y agoHe means that robotaxi companies will make more money if they can fit more 'rides' into a given period. It won't be long before some mba big brain figures out lobbying for increased speed limits will do just that.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> lobbying for increased speed limits So we're describing a hypothetical problem a decade or more out in respect of a technology evolving so quickly a significant fraction of people still don't even believe it's real.
- cyanydeez 1y agoIts because using the fact that robotaxis follow "logic" excludes they from the same risk taking as humans ignores the bootstrap that will happen and the inhetent shittification we see with all capitalism meets social programming.
- AlotOfReading 1y agoA company that systematically speeds is a nice fat piggybank for governments wanting a little extra money in their budget or a political win. These vehicles are logging their current locations and speeds constantly against a map of known speed limits. It's much easier for a government to request those records and assess a fine than go after individual motorists with politically unpopular measures like speed traps and traffic cameras.
- cyanydeez 1y agoYawn, same as humans and speed traps.
- techterrier 1y agoin which case I apologise :) I've seen plenty of robotaxi huckers advocate for speed limits 'appropriate for robot response times'
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> I've seen plenty of robotaxi huckers advocate for speed limits 'appropriate for robot response times' Where?
- imtringued 1y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45201394 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45201394
- tim333 1y agoI think maybe robotaxis should have speed limits appropriate for driving into trees and fire trucks.
- crazygringo 1y agoI haven't. It's part of discussions around hypothetical futures where everything is self-driving and the vehicles communicate with each other to form dense convoys on places like freeways where there aren't pedestrians. I certainly haven't heard any mainstream suggestions that self-driving taxis ought to drive faster than humans in spaces they share with human drivers and human pedestrians.
- bluGill 1y agoI expect robots to run at 120mph only when it is safe. Meaning I can safely cross the road, if they are going 120mph it is because they have correctly figured out I'm not going to cross the road in front of them.