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At my school the kids asked for donations to fund their equipment and they brought in money on the games for their budget. But once again… students and communi

At my school the kids asked for donations to fund their equipment and they brought in money on the games for their budget. But once again… students and community use football. They do not use high school libraries.

nevertoolate 1y ago
What is your point? One of education’s primary goals is / were to help learning to enjoy the “right” things. Football field or library are not “good” in themselves, people learn to enjoy reading books and playing football via guidance.
- monkeyelite 1y ago
  My point is you don’t need to spend money on high school libraries if nobody uses them. You can even just buy students books.
mynameisvlad 1y ago
> students and community use football. They do not use high school libraries. That's literally the problem being presented, the "joke" as you called it. This isn't something to be weirdly proud about. This is something to be extremely concerned about. Prioritizing football over education in a place dedicated to the latter is absurd. Like, Idiocracy-levels absurd. How has it gone so far over your head?
- monkeyelite 1y ago
  So which is worse? - funding something people benefit from but is not part of your mission - funding something which is in your mission, but nobody uses? The former is questionable. The latter is a just a waste. Do you care about education outcomes? Or do you care about 90s symbols of education, like libraries.
  - yifanl 1y ago
    Which is worse, buying Marlboros for the students, or buying books for the library?
    - monkeyelite 1y ago
      You got me. Especially with the edit from heroin.
  - snozolli 1y ago
    funding something ... but is not part of your mission That is worse. It's education, not a startup in need of a pivot.
    - monkeyelite 1y ago
      Most Americans disagree and see athletics as an integral part of a rounded education.
      - snozolli 1y ago
        You're the one who drew the contrast in the first place! You characterized it as outside the mission and now you're trying to say it's part of the mission. Come on.
- georgeecollins 1y ago
  I think the point is that the average person in a community cares more about football than education. There are place where they really do. You think that is idiotic and absurd -- I don't disagree. But we live in a democracy. You can't force people to care about what you think they should care about.
jjani 1y ago
Let's do away with the blackboards, school books, pencils, pens, and edutech. Replace all of them with tablets loaded with TikTok, Youtube, Instagram, Minecraft, Roblox. I'm sure they'll see much more use than what they're replacing. Such efficiency!
- monkeyelite 1y ago
  Who said anything about replacing school time? I agree - having an after school video game time would be a better use of resources than an unused library.
sleepyguy 1y ago
The the big ironies of North Texas school districts — taxpayers foot the bill for those multimillion-dollar stadiums, turf fields, courts, and gyms, but the second class is out, the gates get locked like it’s Fort Knox. Meanwhile, kids are dodging cars in the street because they can’t set foot on the pristine facilities their parents literally paid for. It’s not even just a summer thing — a lot of districts have blanket “no public use” policies year-round. They’ll cite liability, vandalism, or “preservation of facilities” as the reason, but the result is the same: empty fields, fenced-off courts, and taxpayers staring at what they bought but can’t touch.

nevertoolate 1y ago

What is your point? One of education’s primary goals is / were to help learning to enjoy the “right” things. Football field or library are not “good” in themselves, people learn to enjoy reading books and playing football via guidance.

monkeyelite 1y ago
My point is you don’t need to spend money on high school libraries if nobody uses them. You can even just buy students books.

mynameisvlad 1y ago

> students and community use football. They do not use high school libraries. That's literally the problem being presented, the "joke" as you called it. This isn't something to be weirdly proud about. This is something to be extremely concerned about. Prioritizing football over education in a place dedicated to the latter is absurd. Like, Idiocracy-levels absurd. How has it gone so far over your head?

monkeyelite 1y ago
So which is worse? - funding something people benefit from but is not part of your mission - funding something which is in your mission, but nobody uses? The former is questionable. The latter is a just a waste. Do you care about education outcomes? Or do you care about 90s symbols of education, like libraries.
- yifanl 1y ago
  Which is worse, buying Marlboros for the students, or buying books for the library?
  - monkeyelite 1y ago
    You got me. Especially with the edit from heroin.
- snozolli 1y ago
  funding something ... but is not part of your mission That is worse. It's education, not a startup in need of a pivot.
  - monkeyelite 1y ago
    Most Americans disagree and see athletics as an integral part of a rounded education.
    - snozolli 1y ago
      You're the one who drew the contrast in the first place! You characterized it as outside the mission and now you're trying to say it's part of the mission. Come on.
georgeecollins 1y ago
I think the point is that the average person in a community cares more about football than education. There are place where they really do. You think that is idiotic and absurd -- I don't disagree. But we live in a democracy. You can't force people to care about what you think they should care about.

jjani 1y ago

Let's do away with the blackboards, school books, pencils, pens, and edutech. Replace all of them with tablets loaded with TikTok, Youtube, Instagram, Minecraft, Roblox. I'm sure they'll see much more use than what they're replacing. Such efficiency!

monkeyelite 1y ago
Who said anything about replacing school time? I agree - having an after school video game time would be a better use of resources than an unused library.

sleepyguy 1y ago

The the big ironies of North Texas school districts — taxpayers foot the bill for those multimillion-dollar stadiums, turf fields, courts, and gyms, but the second class is out, the gates get locked like it’s Fort Knox. Meanwhile, kids are dodging cars in the street because they can’t set foot on the pristine facilities their parents literally paid for. It’s not even just a summer thing — a lot of districts have blanket “no public use” policies year-round. They’ll cite liability, vandalism, or “preservation of facilities” as the reason, but the result is the same: empty fields, fenced-off courts, and taxpayers staring at what they bought but can’t touch.