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I've seen many times how some people react to a single bus lane or even a tiny bicycle lane as though cars are getting the raw end of the deal when 90%+ of infr
by forinti 1y ago
I've seen many times how some people react to a single bus lane or even a tiny bicycle lane as though cars are getting the raw end of the deal when 90%+ of infrastructure is for cars.
- trial3 1y agounfortunately i think the crab bucket mentality kicks in when sitting in stop and go traffic and seeing someone breeze by in a bike lane makes people so enraged they’re against cycling infrastructure for the rest of their lives
- lukan 1y agoOr some of them can make the mental transition towards "hey, I could also be the one enjoying a free ride instead of being stuck in my car here"
- aendruk 1y agoI keep wishing there was a better way to project invitation when in this situation. All I’ve come up with is to appear happy and relaxed—sit upright, look around and smile, eat something as I roll. We’re so instinctively competitive though it feels hopeless.
- pjmlp 1y agoDepends if I seat cozy drinking my warm take away coffee while it is pouring rain or snow.
- nonethewiser 1y agonah its more like no right of way on right turns. the breaking of fundamental rules by adding bikes.
- osigurdson 1y agoSome cities build dedicated bike paths. This is much nicer as you aren't fighting with cars that way.
- lukan 1y agoIn some places the only way to make a bike bath is to reduce a car lane. I am all for it out of general principle, but most car drivers will likely disagree.
- scott_w 1y agoIt makes no difference, I’ve seen people pushback even when that lane doesn’t remove a regular road lane!
- osigurdson 1y agoI guess it depends on demand. If bikes are 100-to-1 then make a bike lane, if the other way around maybe not. Need to remember that tax-payers actually fund this stuff so can't just force random stuff on them.
- lukan 1y agoThat is true, but the thing is, without bike lanes, people won't switch to bikes in certain traffic conditions. Cyclists pay taxes btw. too and a bicycle with its low weight is magnitudes cheaper for the roads, then the SUV tanks.
- osigurdson 1y agoI guess it is reasonable to run some experiments, set up some bike lanes for a period of time. If they are used, keep them, if not maybe consider removing them. Good point regarding the costs. The other advantage of dedicated / purpose-built bike paths is they likely don't have to be built to the same spec as ones designed for vehicle use (I assume - not a civil engineer).
- ryukafalz 1y agoCareful, this often ends up with cities and towns building isolated pilot bike lanes that go nowhere and then ripping them out when nobody uses them. The value of a bike lane isn't in the lane in isolation, in the same way that the value of a street isn't in that street alone. It's in the ability of that lane/street to get you where you need or want to go.