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I doubt much changed. American STEM education has always been pretty mediocre. I've been hearing about my whole life.
by eli_gottlieb 1y ago
I doubt much changed. American STEM education has always been pretty mediocre. I've been hearing about my whole life.
- nradov 1y agoMediocre by what metric? American STEM education seems to objectively be doing pretty well in terms of Nobel prizes, scholarly journal articles, patents, technology product revenue, etc. Of course there's always room for improvement.
- aprilthird2021 1y ago> American STEM education seems to objectively be doing pretty well in terms of Nobel prizes, scholarly journal articles, patents, technology product revenue, etc. I hate to break it to you, but a lot of our most valuable research is produced by people who did their primary education outside the US. Just go to a STEM research lab at any US university connected to a Nobel prize or Fields medal in the last 10-20 years, and it will be almost completely made up of internationally educated students / professors / etc.
- monkeyelite 1y agoYes, they are getting visas via academia employment.
- RoyalSloth 1y agoIf someone is curious about this data, I made a little analysis a while ago - Nobel Prize in numbers: https://blog.royalsloth.eu/posts/nobel-prize-in-numbers/#section-prize-distribution https://blog.royalsloth.eu/posts/nobel-prize-in-numbers/#sec...
- cyberax 1y agoAbout a half of Nobel Prizes in the US were awarded to immigrants or children of immigrants.
- bell-cot 1y agoUnfortunately, those metrics are very focused on the 0.1%, if not the 0.01%. Like a sorting algorithm which is O(n) on nearly-sorted input - the utility is limited.
- monkeyelite 1y ago? That’s a common use case for sorting though.