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I think it's more because they're way behind on AI and they literally have nothing to actually tell us.

by mdotk 1y ago

kergonath 1y ago
They’re not way behind on AI, they’re way behind on LLMs. Several features they presented depend heavily on AI.
- fsckboy 1y ago
  whatever Siri is, they're way behind on it. Siri has gotten siriously worse, Siri has fallen behind Siri. (of course can't speak to this new release, obviously)
  - kergonath 1y ago
    No objection for me. I haven't used it since 2016 or so. I did not try it on the beta.
frizlab 1y ago
That’s not true. There were multiple AI features presented, just very well-known ones like the babel fish AirPods Pro. Nothing fancy, but it’s still AI and it’s useful.
runako 1y ago
As an Apple user, what are they behind on? What features are other makers shipping that Apple is missing? (Genuinely curious, perhaps there are third-party apps I can use to bridge the gap.)
- vbezhenar 1y ago
  You need to spend a week to disable all AI features in Pixel. You need to spend just a day to disable all AI features in iPhone.
- xnx 1y ago
  Apple fans would be going crazy with excitement if Apple unveiled Gemini 2.5 Flash Image (AKA "nano banana"). It's the most powerful image editing tool since Photoshop 1.0.
  - runako 1y ago
    Pardon my ignorance, but is this part of Android or a standalone app? Is it something that is not usable on Apple devices?
    - xnx 1y ago
      It powers part of the Google Photos app on Android. It can be used on Apple devices through Gemini, but it is not well known yet.
      - adastra22 1y ago
        Probably because Google marketing is the worst. Wtf is “nano-banana.” This is straight out of a Silicon Valley HBO skit.
        xnx 1y ago
        I can almost excuse them for not hyping this too broadly because of how disruptive to certain jobs it will be.
micromacrofoot 1y ago
in some ways (hardware) they're ahead, their dominance in mobile chip power lets them do a lot more machine learning on-device also hard to find a better laptop for running an LLM locally too
acdha 1y ago
How are they behind, in terms of things normal people actually use? Apps like ChatGPT work just fine, and I have literally never heard an Android user I know personally talk about something they can do which isn’t available on iOS.

I think it's more because they're way behind on AI and they literally have nothing to actually tell us.

by mdotk 1y ago

I think it's more because they're way behind on AI and they literally have nothing to actually tell us.

kergonath 1y ago

They’re not way behind on AI, they’re way behind on LLMs. Several features they presented depend heavily on AI.

fsckboy 1y ago
whatever Siri is, they're way behind on it. Siri has gotten siriously worse, Siri has fallen behind Siri. (of course can't speak to this new release, obviously)
- kergonath 1y ago
  No objection for me. I haven't used it since 2016 or so. I did not try it on the beta.

frizlab 1y ago

That’s not true. There were multiple AI features presented, just very well-known ones like the babel fish AirPods Pro. Nothing fancy, but it’s still AI and it’s useful.

runako 1y ago

As an Apple user, what are they behind on? What features are other makers shipping that Apple is missing? (Genuinely curious, perhaps there are third-party apps I can use to bridge the gap.)

vbezhenar 1y ago
You need to spend a week to disable all AI features in Pixel. You need to spend just a day to disable all AI features in iPhone.
xnx 1y ago
Apple fans would be going crazy with excitement if Apple unveiled Gemini 2.5 Flash Image (AKA "nano banana"). It's the most powerful image editing tool since Photoshop 1.0.
- runako 1y ago
  Pardon my ignorance, but is this part of Android or a standalone app? Is it something that is not usable on Apple devices?
  - xnx 1y ago
    It powers part of the Google Photos app on Android. It can be used on Apple devices through Gemini, but it is not well known yet.
    - adastra22 1y ago
      Probably because Google marketing is the worst. Wtf is “nano-banana.” This is straight out of a Silicon Valley HBO skit.
      - xnx 1y ago
        I can almost excuse them for not hyping this too broadly because of how disruptive to certain jobs it will be.

micromacrofoot 1y ago

in some ways (hardware) they're ahead, their dominance in mobile chip power lets them do a lot more machine learning on-device also hard to find a better laptop for running an LLM locally too

acdha 1y ago

How are they behind, in terms of things normal people actually use? Apps like ChatGPT work just fine, and I have literally never heard an Android user I know personally talk about something they can do which isn’t available on iOS.