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Are there any more heart emojis? I'm not sure we have enough with Beating Heart, Broken Heart, Two Hearts, Sparkling Heart, Growing Heart, Heart with arrow, Blu

Are there any more heart emojis? I'm not sure we have enough with Beating Heart, Broken Heart, Two Hearts, Sparkling Heart, Growing Heart, Heart with arrow, Blue Heart, Green Heart, Yellow Heart, Purple Heart, Heart with Ribbon, Revolving Hearts, Heart Decoration. * https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/block/U+1F300 https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/block/U+1F300 The original emojis were (AIUI) there to support Japanese carrier characters. They've now grown to including seemingly 'everything' for some value of everything. What is the process for adding them? Are there examples of emojis being rejected?

Someone 1y ago
https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html has a list of factors for inclusion (example: “is legible and visibly distinctive”) and a list of factors for exclusion (example: “is overly specific”) I don’t think Unicode.org has a nice list of rejected proposals, but examples are easily googled, for example https://charlottebuff.com/unicode/misc/rejected-emoji-proposals/ https://charlottebuff.com/unicode/misc/rejected-emoji-propos...
- jenniferx 1y ago
  Unicode's list of emoji proposal status: https://unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html https://unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html
yorwba 1y ago
The process is described here: https://www.unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html#process https://www.unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html#process The list of past proposals is here: https://www.unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html https://www.unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html Most have been declined.
- Palomides 1y ago
  kinda mad guillotine got rejected, it concisely expresses a very popular sentiment
  - harwoodr 1y ago
    I'm more disappointed that "Dumpster Fire" hasn't made the grade four times.
    - jowea 1y ago
      Would controversial emojis even get widespread support? Look at what happened to gun emoji.
      - throw0101d 1y ago
        "Dumpster fire" is a idiomatic phrase in English/US, so may not be universal enough. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire
        harwoodr 1y ago
        I'm not an American... but "bin fire" seems to be a thing too.
      - account42 1y ago
        Which is really the root problem with emojis: they're a top down definition of what concepts you are allowed to communicate.
        squigz 1y ago
        If you're only allowed to communicate in emojis, I guess? Other than that I'm not sure what bearing emojis have on what I'm allowed to talk about.
  - bell-cot 1y ago
    "Gun", "knife", and a fair number other emoji's are nerfed. Perhaps too much for many HNers. But not nearly enough for anyone who's had a stalker.
- bigstrat2003 1y ago
  They should all have been declined. Emojis are not text and have no place in a text encoding standard.
  - Spivak 1y ago
    :)
    - bombcar 1y ago
      𓂺 Even if you got rid of emojis, people would find a way. Even on Hacker News.
    - account42 1y ago
      The big difference between text emoticons and emojis is that emoticons are not defined by a committee.
      - Rebelgecko 1y ago
        RFC 9078 stans in shambles
- anigbrowl 1y ago
  Ugh, I really don't care for their selection process. Emoji should be open source even though that means there will be nazi emoji and porn emoji, it should be up to the user which ones they use. The selection committee seems like a very arbitrary group and many of their decisions seem equally arbitrary.
  - lifthrasiir 1y ago
    This has been already brought up multiple times with multiple different proposals, all of which were unsatisfactory to this date.
  - rkomorn 1y ago
    I don't know if you've ever used even remotely popular slack instances, but I'd say the flood of new reactions people are constantly adding on the slack instances (including corporate ones) I've been on is not something I'd want to see repeated for emojis.
    - Freak_NL 1y ago
      Useful feature though, but just for limited audiences (not just Slack of course, Mattermost does this too). We have a grammar Nazi flag, a rubber duck, and an animated dancing banana.
      - rkomorn 1y ago
        I like it! And I've been guilty of adding my own. But yes, limited audiences. Exactly that.
      - BeFlatXIII 1y ago
        Is the Grammar Nazi flag the Grammarly logo but with a swastika instead of the G?
        Freak_NL 1y ago
        This one is a stylised black square 'G' rotate 45° on a white circle in a red field. Definitely off-colour dev humour for internal use; but that has its place.
floxy 1y ago
>Are there any more heart emojis? I don't see a Heart with Tip On the Right to complement Heart with Tip On the Left: https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1F394 https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1F394 ...seems like a notable oversight. And what if you were pregnant with twins? Then it seems like you'd want one big heart with two little hearts, instead of being just stuck with one big heart and one little heart. https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1F495 https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1F495 https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/search?q=heart#characters https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/search?q=heart#characters
amelius 1y ago
:big-hypocritical-grin: please
amelius 1y ago
What happened to the smiley-holding-heart emoticon? It was common in Facebook messenger, but Whatsapp doesn't have it ... Sad, because it was quite apt in many circumstances.

Someone 1y ago

https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html has a list of factors for inclusion (example: “is legible and visibly distinctive”) and a list of factors for exclusion (example: “is overly specific”) I don’t think Unicode.org has a nice list of rejected proposals, but examples are easily googled, for example https://charlottebuff.com/unicode/misc/rejected-emoji-proposals/ https://charlottebuff.com/unicode/misc/rejected-emoji-propos...

jenniferx 1y ago
Unicode's list of emoji proposal status: https://unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html https://unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html

yorwba 1y ago

The process is described here: https://www.unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html#process https://www.unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html#process The list of past proposals is here: https://www.unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html https://www.unicode.org/emoji/emoji-proposals-status.html Most have been declined.

Palomides 1y ago
kinda mad guillotine got rejected, it concisely expresses a very popular sentiment
- harwoodr 1y ago
  I'm more disappointed that "Dumpster Fire" hasn't made the grade four times.
  - jowea 1y ago
    Would controversial emojis even get widespread support? Look at what happened to gun emoji.
    - throw0101d 1y ago
      "Dumpster fire" is a idiomatic phrase in English/US, so may not be universal enough. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_fire
      - harwoodr 1y ago
        I'm not an American... but "bin fire" seems to be a thing too.
    - account42 1y ago
      Which is really the root problem with emojis: they're a top down definition of what concepts you are allowed to communicate.
      - squigz 1y ago
        If you're only allowed to communicate in emojis, I guess? Other than that I'm not sure what bearing emojis have on what I'm allowed to talk about.
- bell-cot 1y ago
  "Gun", "knife", and a fair number other emoji's are nerfed. Perhaps too much for many HNers. But not nearly enough for anyone who's had a stalker.
bigstrat2003 1y ago
They should all have been declined. Emojis are not text and have no place in a text encoding standard.
- Spivak 1y ago
  :)
  - bombcar 1y ago
    𓂺 Even if you got rid of emojis, people would find a way. Even on Hacker News.
  - account42 1y ago
    The big difference between text emoticons and emojis is that emoticons are not defined by a committee.
    - Rebelgecko 1y ago
      RFC 9078 stans in shambles
anigbrowl 1y ago
Ugh, I really don't care for their selection process. Emoji should be open source even though that means there will be nazi emoji and porn emoji, it should be up to the user which ones they use. The selection committee seems like a very arbitrary group and many of their decisions seem equally arbitrary.
- lifthrasiir 1y ago
  This has been already brought up multiple times with multiple different proposals, all of which were unsatisfactory to this date.
- rkomorn 1y ago
  I don't know if you've ever used even remotely popular slack instances, but I'd say the flood of new reactions people are constantly adding on the slack instances (including corporate ones) I've been on is not something I'd want to see repeated for emojis.
  - Freak_NL 1y ago
    Useful feature though, but just for limited audiences (not just Slack of course, Mattermost does this too). We have a grammar Nazi flag, a rubber duck, and an animated dancing banana.
    - rkomorn 1y ago
      I like it! And I've been guilty of adding my own. But yes, limited audiences. Exactly that.
    - BeFlatXIII 1y ago
      Is the Grammar Nazi flag the Grammarly logo but with a swastika instead of the G?
      - Freak_NL 1y ago
        This one is a stylised black square 'G' rotate 45° on a white circle in a red field. Definitely off-colour dev humour for internal use; but that has its place.

floxy 1y ago

>Are there any more heart emojis? I don't see a Heart with Tip On the Right to complement Heart with Tip On the Left: https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1F394 https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1F394 ...seems like a notable oversight. And what if you were pregnant with twins? Then it seems like you'd want one big heart with two little hearts, instead of being just stuck with one big heart and one little heart. https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1F495 https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+1F495 https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/search?q=heart#characters https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/search?q=heart#characters

amelius 1y ago

:big-hypocritical-grin: please

amelius 1y ago

What happened to the smiley-holding-heart emoticon? It was common in Facebook messenger, but Whatsapp doesn't have it ... Sad, because it was quite apt in many circumstances.