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That is the dumbest side profile I have ever seen. The camera bump and camera together are thicker than the rest of this thing. By its design it now demands a m

That is the dumbest side profile I have ever seen. The camera bump and camera together are thicker than the rest of this thing. By its design it now demands a massive case or just won't ever sit even reasonably flat on a table. Ridiculous.

JBiserkov 1y ago
"Just" put an magsafe battery on the back. 1. Create a problem. 2. Sell the solution. 3. Profit.
- ManBeardPc 1y ago
  But hey, at least the battery is (partially) replaceable that way.
- dmix 1y ago
  If it runs all day like they claim that probably won't be a big seller.
  - paxys 1y ago
    They very conveniently left out a number from "all day".
    - sophiebits 1y ago
      Website says "Up to 27 hours video playback", which is apparently 7–8 hours more than the iPhones 13–15 and 4–5 more than the 13–15 Pro. Also normally their battery estimates are conservative.
      - lostmsu 1y ago
        These days the question is more about continuous use of Gmaps.
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aurareturn 1y ago
My iPhone 16 Pro with a case doesn't shit flat. I don't see why this is a problem.
- jacquesm 1y ago
  > My iPhone 16 Pro with a case doesn't shit flat. I don't see why this is a problem. That would definitely be a problem.
apparent 1y ago
It will arguably sit flatter than the prior iPhones, which rock diagonally. This will be tilted a bit, but at least be stable.
- OsrsNeedsf2P 1y ago
  Apple is always one step back, two steps forwards.
- layer8 1y ago
  It won't be completely stable, when used without a case. The geometry is such that on the side of the lens it's the lens that is touching the surface where you put it, not the bar-shaped bump. Meaning, it won't sit on the long edge of the bar.
  - apparent 1y ago
    Is this confirmed by journalists who were at the event today? It seems true for the Pro models, but I can't tell for the Air.
    - layer8 1y ago
      Yes, see for example the hands-on video of The Verge. You can also tell from the side profile images on the Apple website. Drawing a straight line from the lens to the bottom edge of the phone doesn't cross or touch the edge of the "plateau", by a good bit.
      - apparent 1y ago
        OK cool, yeah there's definitely still a wobble. [1] Bummer! 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xtu0aVF-hg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xtu0aVF-hg
- HarHarVeryFunny 1y ago
  I've got an iPhone XR with a chunky (highly protective) Speck Presidio case that's comfortably thicker than the camera protrusion and therefore lays 100% flat. Gotta say it would drive me nuts to have a phone that didn't lay flat and couldn't therefore be put down safely on the edge of the sink etc.
b_e_n_t_o_n 1y ago
It will tilt towards you which would actually be more ergonomic than lying flat.
1970-01-01 1y ago
The camera bump is there for the same reason the wireless mouse has the charge port on the bottom: Apple want you to hold it.
lnrd 1y ago
Why should a phone sit flat on a table? What's the advantage of that? I seriously don't understand this (common) complaint that I see. If anything a slight tilt makes the screen a bit more readable.
- ricardobeat 1y ago
  The problem with the one-sided camera bump is that the phone is unstable. It wobbles when you touch it, making using it while lying “flat” on the table incredibly annoying.
- joshjob42 1y ago
  I don't want/need the whole thing to be flat but I do prefer it to be stable. For instance if the plateau were a bit thicker so that the camera lens was flush with the surface (even just an extra bar sort of inside the plateau) it would mean that when I put it down it would never rock back and forth when I'm tapping at it on a table.
altairprime 1y ago
Right now I have to lean my phone on my purse to get a nice reading angle, because the lens block is lopsided and my phone wobbles around otherwise. The Air bump is still a better angle than flat, and I bet the lens doesn’t keep it from resting stably on the lower edge of the chin (?) rather than the lens edge.
- layer8 1y ago
  No, it wobbles and doesn’t rest on the lower chin. Look at the Verge hands-on video on YouTube.
  - altairprime 1y ago
    Yup. Well, darn.

JBiserkov 1y ago

"Just" put an magsafe battery on the back. 1. Create a problem. 2. Sell the solution. 3. Profit.

ManBeardPc 1y ago
But hey, at least the battery is (partially) replaceable that way.
dmix 1y ago
If it runs all day like they claim that probably won't be a big seller.
- paxys 1y ago
  They very conveniently left out a number from "all day".
  - sophiebits 1y ago
    Website says "Up to 27 hours video playback", which is apparently 7–8 hours more than the iPhones 13–15 and 4–5 more than the 13–15 Pro. Also normally their battery estimates are conservative.
    - lostmsu 1y ago
      These days the question is more about continuous use of Gmaps.

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aurareturn 1y ago

My iPhone 16 Pro with a case doesn't shit flat. I don't see why this is a problem.

jacquesm 1y ago
> My iPhone 16 Pro with a case doesn't shit flat. I don't see why this is a problem. That would definitely be a problem.

apparent 1y ago

It will arguably sit flatter than the prior iPhones, which rock diagonally. This will be tilted a bit, but at least be stable.

OsrsNeedsf2P 1y ago
Apple is always one step back, two steps forwards.
layer8 1y ago
It won't be completely stable, when used without a case. The geometry is such that on the side of the lens it's the lens that is touching the surface where you put it, not the bar-shaped bump. Meaning, it won't sit on the long edge of the bar.
- apparent 1y ago
  Is this confirmed by journalists who were at the event today? It seems true for the Pro models, but I can't tell for the Air.
  - layer8 1y ago
    Yes, see for example the hands-on video of The Verge. You can also tell from the side profile images on the Apple website. Drawing a straight line from the lens to the bottom edge of the phone doesn't cross or touch the edge of the "plateau", by a good bit.
    - apparent 1y ago
      OK cool, yeah there's definitely still a wobble. [1] Bummer! 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xtu0aVF-hg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xtu0aVF-hg
HarHarVeryFunny 1y ago
I've got an iPhone XR with a chunky (highly protective) Speck Presidio case that's comfortably thicker than the camera protrusion and therefore lays 100% flat. Gotta say it would drive me nuts to have a phone that didn't lay flat and couldn't therefore be put down safely on the edge of the sink etc.

b_e_n_t_o_n 1y ago

It will tilt towards you which would actually be more ergonomic than lying flat.

1970-01-01 1y ago

The camera bump is there for the same reason the wireless mouse has the charge port on the bottom: Apple want you to hold it.

lnrd 1y ago

Why should a phone sit flat on a table? What's the advantage of that? I seriously don't understand this (common) complaint that I see. If anything a slight tilt makes the screen a bit more readable.

ricardobeat 1y ago
The problem with the one-sided camera bump is that the phone is unstable. It wobbles when you touch it, making using it while lying “flat” on the table incredibly annoying.
joshjob42 1y ago
I don't want/need the whole thing to be flat but I do prefer it to be stable. For instance if the plateau were a bit thicker so that the camera lens was flush with the surface (even just an extra bar sort of inside the plateau) it would mean that when I put it down it would never rock back and forth when I'm tapping at it on a table.

altairprime 1y ago

Right now I have to lean my phone on my purse to get a nice reading angle, because the lens block is lopsided and my phone wobbles around otherwise. The Air bump is still a better angle than flat, and I bet the lens doesn’t keep it from resting stably on the lower edge of the chin (?) rather than the lens edge.

layer8 1y ago
No, it wobbles and doesn’t rest on the lower chin. Look at the Verge hands-on video on YouTube.
- altairprime 1y ago
  Yup. Well, darn.