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That's not obvious at all. The image in the article you're linking to shows people with hardhats and vests that say "mechanic" on them. Not only that there's a

by CPLX 1y ago

That's not obvious at all. The image in the article you're linking to shows people with hardhats and vests that say "mechanic" on them. Not only that there's a long history of asian high tech conglomerates taking shortcuts on these kinds of projects: https://prospect.org/labor/2023-06-22-tsmc-semiconductor-factory-phoenix-accidents/ https://prospect.org/labor/2023-06-22-tsmc-semiconductor-fac... Including this specific one: https://www.enr.com/articles/60802-third-fatality-recorded-at-hyundais-76b-metaplant-in-georgia https://www.enr.com/articles/60802-third-fatality-recorded-a... So maybe, maybe not. The fact that the attorneys for the accused deny it isn't exactly dispositive.

seanmcdirmid 1y ago
Yes, the USA is a PITA for foreign countries to setup factories in, as the Japanese and the Germans learned before, the Taiwanese are learning now, and that's why they prefer to just do setup factories in China instead. I'm also pretty sure we are screwed in manufacturing because our labor is just too expensive and unskilled/unproductive to justify the price. But that is another issue entirely.
- CPLX 1y ago
  You’re using “pain in the ass” as a euphemism for “has labor laws and higher wages” which is a longstanding PR move that’s been going on forever. They prefer to setup factories overseas because they like paying lower wages. Productivity in the US is incredibly high. Our decision to allow manufacturing to be shipped overseas is a political one. We don’t have to care what companies feel like doing. We have the customers and the money. We can insist.
  - dragonwriter 1y ago
    > You’re using “pain in the ass” as a euphemism for “has labor laws and higher wages” which is a longstanding PR move that’s been going on forever. You are using “euphemism” as a euphemism for “dysphemism”. (Or, more likely, just using the wrong word; I doubt you are really intentionally trying to put a positive spin on it.)
    - CPLX 1y ago
      Now this is the kind of pedantry I was worried had vanished from HN. Bravo.

by CPLX 1y ago

seanmcdirmid 1y ago

Yes, the USA is a PITA for foreign countries to setup factories in, as the Japanese and the Germans learned before, the Taiwanese are learning now, and that's why they prefer to just do setup factories in China instead. I'm also pretty sure we are screwed in manufacturing because our labor is just too expensive and unskilled/unproductive to justify the price. But that is another issue entirely.

CPLX 1y ago
You’re using “pain in the ass” as a euphemism for “has labor laws and higher wages” which is a longstanding PR move that’s been going on forever. They prefer to setup factories overseas because they like paying lower wages. Productivity in the US is incredibly high. Our decision to allow manufacturing to be shipped overseas is a political one. We don’t have to care what companies feel like doing. We have the customers and the money. We can insist.
- dragonwriter 1y ago
  > You’re using “pain in the ass” as a euphemism for “has labor laws and higher wages” which is a longstanding PR move that’s been going on forever. You are using “euphemism” as a euphemism for “dysphemism”. (Or, more likely, just using the wrong word; I doubt you are really intentionally trying to put a positive spin on it.)
  - CPLX 1y ago
    Now this is the kind of pedantry I was worried had vanished from HN. Bravo.