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Just like with their last release, they only released the architecture and not the weights. It may be useful for analyzing the system if you're a competitor (bu
by Scene_Cast2 1y ago
Just like with their last release, they only released the architecture and not the weights. It may be useful for analyzing the system if you're a competitor (but from my last dive into it, it seemed like a strict subset of fancier, industry-leading rec systems), or perhaps getting into rec / retrieval systems as a newcomer.
However, this gives roughly zero insight into how Twitter's feed behaves.
- amelius 1y agoThere might be some value if someone can show that the feed mis-behaves for some selection of weights.
- Scene_Cast2 1y agoNope. Every single system like that will misbehave if given a bad set of weights, or even a random set of weights. I'd go as far as saying that even with "good" weights, it's likely to have some sigma of misbehavior.
- gyanchawdhary 1y agoFor all its flaws .. it’s still a step up from how Parag and co used to run twitter
- snapcaster 1y agoWhy? I've never been a twitter user
- gyanchawdhary 1y agoPost Musk Twitter is amazing. It lets you see how stories, opinions that you support or don’t are attacked from all sides and Community noted / @grok fact checked … a lot of UX changes too .. pre Musk, the moderation / banning was biased and arbitrary (who is watching the watchers?) .. my personal fav was to see the special tick removed from journalists ..
- jezzamon 1y agoI think that's the first time I've seen someone positive about that change. My experience has been by showing blue tick users above others, the experience has become a lot more biased because it's only a certain type of person that pays for Twitter
- moralestapia 1y agoThen make that two times. I also think Twitter under Musk is much better, way much more functionality in it.
- gyanchawdhary 1y agoIsn’t that a good thing that you have already created a mental filter about people who pay for it as being of a “certain type” .. the problem with ticks being bestowed upon some journalists is that they become the brokers/influencers by the virtue of simply working for a newspaper .. that power is vaporised now .. tbh the real question is why didn’t twitter pre musk implement community notes .. I mean it’s not such a bleeding edge / hard to execute idea ..
- kej 1y ago>tbh the real question is why didn’t twitter pre musk implement community notes They did. Community notes are just the rebranded "Birdwatch" program that predates Musk.
- TheAceOfHearts 1y agoCommunity Notes was literally built by pre-Elon Twitter: Birdwatch was first announced on August 2020, and it was initially launched on January 2021. On November 2022, Elon rebranded it to Community Notes and made it widely available.
- lawlessone 1y ago>that power is vaporised now and replaced with something worse.
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- jordanscales 1y agoUnfortunately, this [0] cancels out everything ten-fold. The owner of the website is boosting the content of himself and the people he supports. This did not happen in the old twitter - not even close. [0] https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/issues/236 https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/issues/236
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- paulpauper 1y agothe criteria for deciding which posts in comments or feed are spam or should be otherwise be suppressed are unsurprisingly also hidden . It's known that blue checkmark accounts rank above non-verified ones for comments, but I dunno about feed visibiblity.
- barbazoo 1y agoNot only no weights. Not sure what people's expectations are but a lot of the time this isn't even valid code with all the redaction they did [1]. I'm confused as to who this is for, this surely isn't the repo they're working on, is it? [1] https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/blob/main/trust_and_safety_models/abusive/abusive_model.py https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm/blob/main/trust_and...
- Raed667 1y agoThis is 100% for headlines and Musk to be able to say "we're open" during interviews. Its actual usefulness is not the point
- pbasista 1y agoThe reporters should be getting down to the point and asking Elon Musk about the practical usefulness of such a heavily redacted public release.
- morkalork 1y agoI can think of like 3 institutions that have reporters who would ask that kind of question (The Register, Ars Technica and 404media) and I don't think Musk is going to be sitting across the table from any of them, ever.
- simultsop 1y agoI believe these are the last kicks of a dying horse/bird... Why you take this so serious? The world is moving on. Nobody will trust anyone with their freedom of speech, ever. Is this so hard to see? Any centralized solution qucikly implements censoring, starts banning users.
- skissane 1y ago> I can think of like 3 institutions that have reporters who would ask that kind of question (The Register, Ars Technica and 404media) and I don't think Musk is going to be sitting across the table from any of them, ever. Ars Technica’s space editor, Eric Berger, interviewed Musk only a few months back: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/05/elon-musk-turns-his-focus-back-to-space-says-starship-and-mars-matter-most/ https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/05/elon-musk-turns-his-fo...
- Kaethar 1y agoNot an ML expert, but is it feasible to train the weights using the actual Twitter feed as an oracle?
- MiguelHudnandez 1y agoIt would cost a fortune in API calls, so it's not practical for anyone except internally at corporate.
- bpavuk 1y agowell, Bluesky and Mastodon posts would suffice, but it's still useless because of how redacted the release is
- VoidWhisperer 1y agoI feel like bsky and mastadon only represent a subset of users, so I'm not sure how well you would be able to create a general rec system similar to twitter's from that that is useful outside of those places
- minimaxir 1y agoNo, even if you somehow were able to download the corpus of all public X posts. There are many hidden signals that are feature engineered in good recsys, and the stripped-down algo won't be able to replicate them.
- sieabahlpark 1y ago[dead]
- Gabrys1 1y agoIt'd assume that weights are changing constantly so they'd need to open source a service tweaking the weights in real time rather than the weights themselves...
- dotancohen 1y agoThey could publish a snapshot of any point in time. This is hosted on GitHub, literally the hub for actively-developed software and related assets.
- aaron695 1y ago[dead]