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> literally anyone reading this, can stop using Google search on every device you own in the next 5 minutes Yeah sure you can avoid typing google.com and think

> literally anyone reading this, can stop using Google search on every device you own in the next 5 minutes Yeah sure you can avoid typing google.com and think you just ghosted Google forever, but that won't end Google's relationship with you as it runs deeper than you know through its advertisement and tracking platform. And what about services beyond search at this point? Youtube, GMail, Google Calendar, GoogleFi, Maps, Play store (movies, apps), Photos, Drive. I can try stop using those services immediately, but with a huge cost of data and connectivity loss (there's no easy email redirection, accounts are usually tied to emails). You'll also miss out on things that don't have a nice alternative and you are socially pulled into (green/blue messages in iMessage within the US or having WhatsApp abroad), can you stop clicking into links to documents, presentations and videos that people share?

username332211 1y ago
Isn't the lawsuit (and the entire discussion) specifically about a search monopoly? Also, I'm curious, how many of the things you listed would be normally used by a prolific user of Apple hardware and software? Just YouTube, right?
bitpush 1y ago
> I can try stop using those services immediately, but with a huge cost of data and connectivity loss Doesnt this mean that you get certain value from Google. Are you upset that one company is creating products that you find indispensible. Or are you upset that others have not been able to build products that you like? This is like saying "Apple M series chips are sooo good. Apple sucks"
- dietr1ch 1y ago
  Think about how easy it became to switch mobile carriers. The state of things in the Internet is closer to mobile companies before phone numbers were easily portable across carriers. Can I stop using GMail? yes, but not really. Same as I wasn't able to switch phone companies 20 years ago because reliance on the phone number to stay connected (and abusive contracts). > Doesn't this mean that you get certain value from Google. Yes, but that's no the issue, otherwise I'd have no reason to use it in the first place, right? The problem is that it's hard to migrate.

username332211 1y ago

Isn't the lawsuit (and the entire discussion) specifically about a search monopoly? Also, I'm curious, how many of the things you listed would be normally used by a prolific user of Apple hardware and software? Just YouTube, right?

bitpush 1y ago

> I can try stop using those services immediately, but with a huge cost of data and connectivity loss Doesnt this mean that you get certain value from Google. Are you upset that one company is creating products that you find indispensible. Or are you upset that others have not been able to build products that you like? This is like saying "Apple M series chips are sooo good. Apple sucks"

dietr1ch 1y ago
Think about how easy it became to switch mobile carriers. The state of things in the Internet is closer to mobile companies before phone numbers were easily portable across carriers. Can I stop using GMail? yes, but not really. Same as I wasn't able to switch phone companies 20 years ago because reliance on the phone number to stay connected (and abusive contracts). > Doesn't this mean that you get certain value from Google. Yes, but that's no the issue, otherwise I'd have no reason to use it in the first place, right? The problem is that it's hard to migrate.