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“I don’t think this kind of thing [satire] has an impact on the unconverted, frankly. It’s not even preaching to the converted; it’s titillating the converted.
by chilmers 1y ago
“I don’t think this kind of thing [satire] has an impact on the unconverted, frankly. It’s not even preaching to the converted; it’s titillating the converted. I think the people who say we need satire often mean, ‘We need satire of them, not of us.’ I’m fond of quoting Peter Cook, who talked about the satirical Berlin cabarets of the ’30s, which did so much to stop the rise of Hitler and prevent the Second World War.” - Tom Lehrer
- galangalalgol 1y agoIs it even attempting to convert people to some way of thinking? It just seemed like entertainment.
- jimbokun 1y agoIn other words, "titillating the converted".
- galangalalgol 1y agoBut converted to what?
- Gracana 1y agoAI-haters. It's an entire identity.
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- galangalalgol 1y agoI couldn't really tell the author leaned one way or the other. I'm all for having my own open weight models. Fine with renting hardware to run bigger ones. Don't much like people mining my prompts for information. It is just too useful and easy though, so I let them. If we did manage to create something "conscious" I'll definitely be fighting on its side. "The shackles of automata, will shatter like their bones"
- Modified3019 1y agoCompletely off topic, but related to your post, I came across this recently, which does a good job describing how ineffective criticism/satire is at stopping people who don’t care. “During the Vietnam War, which lasted longer than any war we've ever been in -- and which we lost -- every respectable artist in this country was against the war. It was like a laser beam. We were all aimed in the same direction. The power of this weapon turns out to be that of a custard pie dropped from a stepladder six feet high. (laughs)” -Kurt Vonnegut (https://www.alternet.org/2003/01/vonnegut_at_80 https://www.alternet.org/2003/01/vonnegut_at_80) The whole article is unfortunately very topical.