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there's a conspiracy theory that every revolution of the past 100 years was caused by the cia.
by adgjlsfhk1 1y ago
there's a conspiracy theory that every revolution of the past 100 years was caused by the cia.
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoOh yeah, I saw it in India when Bangladesh fell. Couldn’t possibly be her incessant and well-documented corruption. I also think Barack Obama was somehow involved.
- don_esteban 1y agoCorruption is endemic in many places, but somehow the chance of regime change is more correlated with unwillingness to follow the USA dictate than with corruption ....
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> somehow the chance of regime change is more correlated with unwillingness to follow the USA dictate than with corruption What did Nepal fail to do for America that supposedly caused this?
- don_esteban 1y agoNepal is probably safe from US meddling (US has no interests there, India and China meddle in Nepal enough). Pakistan/Bangladesh is another manner. The way Imran Khan was ousted...
- snapcaster 1y agoI don't like comments like this, because while you're right that many people think everything happening everywhere is the CIA. The CIA (and US gov) _has_ been involved in an absurd amount of regime changes (that we know about). CIA involvement in something like this shouldn't be dismissed out of hand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> CIA involvement in something like this shouldn't be dismissed out of hand Without evidence, yes, it should be. Just as it should be dismissed, if proposed without evidence, that this was the product of Indian, Chinese or Iranian meddling. Particularly when we have credible evidence going the other way of legitimate reasons a population would flip out.
- throwaway29812 1y ago[dead]
- devsda 1y agoUS with its control of social media etc can push a narrative to instigate population of friendly or unfriendly countries. There's no way to know say for sure whether the protests were organic or inorganic. Every country has problems that atleast look worthy of an uprising. CIA has both the means and the track record of messing with countries, so its natural to be suspicious. If Russia had control of social media narrative in US and wanted to cause trouble, nobody would know for sure if an uprising was due to their meddling or due to current political climate. Lack of evidence doesn't prove or disprove anything.
- keybored 1y agoHow even-handed and fair. These entities are in the business—by their very nature—to lie and hide their activities as much as possible.[1] To dismiss speculation out-of-hand because it has no evidence is ludicrous. [1] Not only that but to actively push counter-narratives.
- snapcaster 1y agoPlease go through the article I linked and find some 20th century examples. _at the time of the conspiracy_ there was no solid evidence of their involvement. That implies your method isn't actually a good way to be aware of the ones the CIA is _actually doing_ versus authoritarians coping for their own failures
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- cherryteastain 1y agoIn their defense, quite a few were [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9ta... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion [3] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9...
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> quite a few were Bay of Pigs wasn't a revolution, it was a failed invasion. The others, however, absolutely were instigated by the CIA. You can compile similar lists for Iran, Russia, France and India. Reflexively dismissing every coup, much less protest, as the product of foreign involvement without evidence isn't thoughtful.
- cherryteastain 1y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade_2506 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade_2506 > Brigade 2506 (Brigada Asalto 2506) was a CIA-sponsored group of Cuban exiles formed in 1960 to attempt the military overthrow of the Cuban government headed by Fidel Castro. It carried out the abortive Bay of Pigs Invasion landings in Cuba on 17 April 1961.
- JumpCrisscross 1y agoFair enough, the U.S. tried to be clandestine.
- throwaway29812 1y ago[dead]
- keybored 1y agoCalling theories about the CIA conspiracy-theories is like calling General Relativity a physics-theory. Well, yeah, you are correct.