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How does Apple know the owner of the product has authorized the HW change? There’s a secondary argument you could make here whereby because the replacements mu
by vlovich123 1y ago
How does Apple know the owner of the product has authorized the HW change?
There’s a secondary argument you could make here whereby because the replacements must be valid Apple parts that have uniform behavior and tolerances, the strength of the secondary market is stronger and Apple products have a stronger resale value as a result, because you’re not going to encounter a MacBook with an arbitrary part replaced that you as the second-hand buyer know nothing about (this is why the secondary market for cars doesn’t work without the ability to lookup the car history by VIN).
- userbinator 1y agoApple doesn't need to know. Once it's sold Apple is no longer the owner.
- aurareturn 1y agoWhat happens when you indirectly cause the machine to fail by installing some shout 3rd party part? Are you still going to claim warranty? Walk into an Apple Store to ask for help?
- userbinator 1y agoWe have the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty... to rely on.
- aurareturn 1y agoHuh? Explain more.
- rcxdude 1y agoGenerally speaking companies are not liable for failures due to the customer's own modifications to the product.
- kube-system 1y agoPractically speaking, however, they are liable for the time to service those customers and diagnose product issues to determine that the customer was at fault. And, that extends to any future buyers of used devices. And, any resulting displeasure from customers, even though it wasn't Apple's fault. These sorts of things are exactly the types of problems that exist in the used car market, for exactly the same reasons.
- aurareturn 1y agoYep. That’s why I think Apple tends to lock down their spare parts.
- fastball 1y agoWhat about a work computer? You're not the owner, but presumably you appreciate when can feel that your work computer is still secure.
- userbinator 1y agoIf it's owned by the company then I don't care what they do since that's no longer my responsibility.
- kube-system 1y agoAnd when Apple designed their products, they get to decide how to design it. You can do whatever you want with your computer. But nobody has to design it the way you like it.
- doubled112 1y agoThat car comparison doesn't work here. You can't be sure about the true history of a car, only what was reported. When I replace a wheel bearing assembly in my driveway, you still can't see that by looking up my VIN. Nobody knows except myself and the person I bought the parts from. Was it a dealer part? An OEM part? A poor quality replacement? Can't tell without looking. This might actually support Apple's side of the argument, although I do not. I don't think we need some Carfax equivalent for MacBooks.
- chongli 1y agoThis might actually support Apple's side of the argument, although I do not. I don't think we need some Carfax equivalent for MacBooks. In some ways, Apple's scheme is better than Carfax. In other ways, it's worse. It's worse because you can't get access to the repair history of a device. It's better because you can actually have a reasonable degree of confidence that no "driveway repairs" have taken place since Apple's scheme is not known to be broken.
- buzzerbetrayed 1y agoThis is my biggest complaint with the strict "my device, my rules" people. I want Apple to lock down my device to customization, repairs, etc.. I know I am never going to install an app through means other than the app store, even if I could. I know I'm never going to repair my device through anyone other than Apple, even if I could. I want to know that my device will be a $1,000 paperweight to anyone who steals it. I want to pay Apple to ensure there are no "driveway repairs". A number of years ago I accidentally ended up with a second hand iPhone with a shitty "fake" screen repair. I had no way of knowing it wasn't an Apple screen. But it fucked me over as soon as it started failing a couple months after I bought it. I get tired of the people demanding that a company, with willing, paying customers, isn't allowed to protect their customers because they want something the company doesn't offer. Fuck right off with that shit and buy from a company that does offer that.
- worthless-trash 1y ago
- N19PEDL2 1y agoIt wouldn't be difficult for Apple to add a page in the device settings that shows whether the device contains any non-genuine components.