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The first two quotes are from founders of: - BrowserUse - Founded 2024 - Greptile - Founded 2023 The third quote is from a VC who has never founded a startup

The first two quotes are from founders of: - BrowserUse - Founded 2024 - Greptile - Founded 2023 The third quote is from a VC who has never founded a startup himself and has a clear interest in pushing founders to trade work-life balance for his own quick returns. So none of these people worked on anything longer than 2 years. I wonder what will happen if we check back in 5–10 years. Will they still be doing and promoting 996, or will they be burned out and have changed their minds? Make your bets.

untrust 1y ago
Every one of these quotes is from someone who would be junior or midlevel at best at any company. Not trying to be ageist but mid twenty somethings are filled with enthusiasm and fantastical ideas which are yet to be vetted or guided by real world experience. I agree with your skepticism here
NaomiLehman 1y ago
It's comical that the browser use guy tweeted "crazy salaries, 996" and the highest salary they offer is $320k. In SF.
- esseph 1y ago
  SF or not, that is 5x the US median wage. There's people in the US that would suit up in gladiator garb and fight to death in an arena for that pay.
  - NaomiLehman 1y ago
    Sure, but they don't have the absolute most sought-after skills at the peak of the AI bubble? That's the issue. The dude is asking for 996 to work on an LLM/Patchright wrapper library that also works in the cloud. And with these skills, you can get twice or more at more mature corporations. Technically, they are also writing their own CDP implementation now. Why work for less if you can work for more, with a better work-life balance?
  - Daishiman 1y ago
    They would do that but they wouldn’t be arsed to sit down 8 hours a day reading compsci literature.
    - esseph 1y ago
      Spending 8+ hours a day training to avoid death is a pretty good motivator. Mental requirements lower but not gone, physical requirements much, much higher.

untrust 1y ago

Every one of these quotes is from someone who would be junior or midlevel at best at any company. Not trying to be ageist but mid twenty somethings are filled with enthusiasm and fantastical ideas which are yet to be vetted or guided by real world experience. I agree with your skepticism here

NaomiLehman 1y ago

It's comical that the browser use guy tweeted "crazy salaries, 996" and the highest salary they offer is $320k. In SF.

esseph 1y ago
SF or not, that is 5x the US median wage. There's people in the US that would suit up in gladiator garb and fight to death in an arena for that pay.
- NaomiLehman 1y ago
  Sure, but they don't have the absolute most sought-after skills at the peak of the AI bubble? That's the issue. The dude is asking for 996 to work on an LLM/Patchright wrapper library that also works in the cloud. And with these skills, you can get twice or more at more mature corporations. Technically, they are also writing their own CDP implementation now. Why work for less if you can work for more, with a better work-life balance?
- Daishiman 1y ago
  They would do that but they wouldn’t be arsed to sit down 8 hours a day reading compsci literature.
  - esseph 1y ago
    Spending 8+ hours a day training to avoid death is a pretty good motivator. Mental requirements lower but not gone, physical requirements much, much higher.