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Settlement Terms (from the case pdf) 1. A Settlement Fund of at least $1.5 Billion: Anthropic has agreed to pay a minimum of $1.5 billion into a non-reversiona
by GodelNumbering 1y ago
Settlement Terms (from the case pdf)
1. A Settlement Fund of at least $1.5 Billion: Anthropic has agreed to pay a minimum of $1.5 billion into a non-reversionary fund for the class members. With an estimated 500,000 copyrighted works in the class, this would amount to an approximate gross payment of $3,000 per work. If the final list of works exceeds 500,000, Anthropic will add $3,000 for each additional work.
2. Destruction of Datasets: Anthropic has committed to destroying the datasets it acquired from LibGen and PiLiMi, subject to any legal preservation requirements.
3. Limited Release of Claims: The settlement releases Anthropic only from past claims of infringement related to the works on the official "Works List" up to August 25, 2025. It does not cover any potential future infringements or any claims, past or future, related to infringing outputs generated by Anthropic's AI models.
- privatelypublic 1y agoDon't forget: NO LEGAL PRECEDENT! which means, anybody suing has to start all over. You only settle in this scenario/point if you think you'll lose. Edit: I'll get ratio'd for this- but its the exact same thing google did in it's lawsuit with Epic. They delayed while the public and courts focused in apple (oohh, EVIL apple)- apple lost, and google settled at a disadvantage before they had a legal judgment that couldn't be challenged latter.
- koolala 1y agoWont Facebook just get sued for the same thing now and maybe set precedent?
- hypercube33 1y agoI thought meta had been sued and forgiven as it was impulsive that they do it to make money and faced no charge.
- lukan 1y agoThis is what is confusing me here. I did not really follow any case, but as far as I remember meta seems to have gotten away with pirating books, but anthropic needs to pay $1.5B ?
- ignoramous 1y agoOr, if you think your competition, also caught up in the same quagmire, stands to lose more by battling for longer than you did?
- privatelypublic 1y agoA valid touche! I still think google went with delaying tactics as public and other pressures forced Apple's case forward at greater velocity. (Edit: implicit "and then caved when apple lost"... because they're the same case)
- daedrdev 1y agoA full case is many more years of suits and appeals with high risks, so its natural to settle which obviously means no precedent
- gundmc 1y agoI thought the courts decided against Google in Google vs Epic? It was even appealed and upheld. Are you thinking of another case? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Games_v._Google https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Games_v._Google
- terminalshort 1y agoThere is already a mountain of legal precedent that you can't just download copyrighted work. That's what this lawsuit is about. Just because one of the parties is Anthropic doesn't mean this is some new AI thing.
- tpmoney 1y ago> You only settle in this scenario/point if you think you'll lose. Or because you already got the judgement you wanted. Remember Athropic's training of the AI was determined to be fair use for all the legally acquired items, which Anthropic claims is their current acquisition model anyway. If we assume that's true for the sake of argument, there's no point in fighting a battle on the remaining part unless they have something to gain by it. Since they're not doing that anymore, they don't gain, and run a very high risk of losing more. From a purely PR perspective, this is the right move.
- manbash 1y agoThank you. I assumed it would be quicker to find the link to the case PDF here, but your summary is appreciated! Indeed, it is not only payout, but the destruction of the datasets. Although the article does quote: > “Anthropic says it did not even use these pirated works,” he said. “If some other generative A.I. company took data from pirated source and used it to train on and commercialized it, the potential liability is enormous. It will shake the industry — no doubt in my mind.” Even if true, I wonder how many cases we will see in the near future.
- gooosle 1y agoSo... it would be a lot cheaper to just buy all of the books?
- _alternator_ 1y agoThey did, but only after they pirated the books to begin with.
- privatelypublic 1y agoFew. This settlement potentially weakens all challenges to the use of copyrighted works in training LLM's. I'd be shocked if behind closed doors there wasn't some give and take on the matter between Executives/investors. A settlement means the claimants no longer have a claim, which means if they're also part of- say, the New York Times affiliated lawsuit- they have to withdraw. A neat way of kneecapping a country wide decision that LLM training on copy written material is subject to punitive measures don't you think?
- freejazz 1y agoThat's not even remotely true. Page 4 of the settlement describes released claims which only relate to the pirating of books. Again, the amount of misinformation and misunderstanding I see in copyright related threads here ASTOUNDS.
- privatelypublic 1y agoDid you miss the "also" how about "adjacent"? I won't pretend to understand the legal minutia, but reading the settlement doesn't mean you do either. In my experience&training in a fintech corp- Accepting a settlement in any suit weakens your defense- but prevents a judgement and future claims for the same claims from the same claimants (a la double jeopardy). So, again- at minimum- this prevents an actual judgement. Which, likely would be positive for the NYT (and adjacent) cases.
- freejazz 1y ago
- testing22321 1y agoI’m an author, can I get in on this?
- A_D_E_P_T 1y agoI had the same question. It looks like you'll be able to search this site if the settlement is approved: > https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com/ https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com/ If your work is there, you qualify for a slice of the settlement. If not, you're outta luck.
- mooreds 1y agoI didn't see a way to search for my book there, but there definitely is an author intake form. This site references Meta, but the training corpus probably has some overlap? Maybe? https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/search-libgen-data-set/682094/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/searc...
- __mharrison__ 1y agoI'm an author. Can I get anthropic stock instead?
- pier25 1y agoOnly 500,000 copyrighted works? I was under the impression they had downloaded millions of books.
- KittenInABox 1y agoIndividual authors had to join the class action lawsuit, sadly. They were not all automatically registered for each violation.
- rendaw 1y agoSo they can also keep models trained on the datasets? That seems pretty big too, unless the half life of models is so low it doesn't matter.
- aprilthird2021 1y agoIt's a separate suit being wages against Meta and OpenAI etc. There's piracy, then there's making available a model to the public which can regurgitate copyrighted works or emulate them. The latter is still unsettled