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I’ve asked myself why my grandparents did not try to overthrow their Nazi regime. They were not the most immoral people on the surface, they just viewed their a

I’ve asked myself why my grandparents did not try to overthrow their Nazi regime. They were not the most immoral people on the surface, they just viewed their actions happening as the only way of survival. I think the answer lies in seeing what really happening instead of what’s portrayed as happening on their propaganda outlets. Articles like this start to transition people away from supporting fascism if they are believed.

onetimeusename 1y ago
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- krapp 1y ago
  >There was large scale mass migration into the country that appeared to be facilitated by the last administration. Did you forget to specify "illegal" migration in regards to this conspiracy theory or did the mask just slip here?
  - anonfordays 1y ago
    No need to be any more specific. The only mass migration into the country over the past decade that appeared to be facilitated by the last admimistration was an illegal one.
  - like_any_other 1y ago
    You think this is an argument about paperwork?
    - krapp 1y ago
      Obviously not. I just want people to actually say what they mean for once and stop pretending it is an argument about paperwork.
- like_any_other 1y ago
  The mass migration has been going since before 1986, when Republicans gave amnesty to illegal immigrants, on the promise of getting better border control [1]. They didn't get it, nor was legal immigration reduced in any way, nor did the Republican party itself fight too hard for either. No surprise voters felt betrayed. California passed a referendum to stop literally funding illegal immigration, only for it to be judicially overturned [2]. Again and again and again, any kind of limit on immigration, no matter how popular, was rejected. Is it any surprise it came to this? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_18...
- mcphage 1y ago
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- standardUser 1y ago
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standardUser 1y ago
I will say that, having grown up in the 80's and 90's far removed from the fascist states of yesteryear, it was always baffling how Western nations succumbed so completely to authoritarianism. I am not longer baffled.
- yoyohello13 1y ago
  I’m seeing it happen in real time and am still baffled. I realize now there are groups of people with perceptions of reality so different from mine they are basically akin to an alien species.

onetimeusename 1y ago

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krapp 1y ago
>There was large scale mass migration into the country that appeared to be facilitated by the last administration. Did you forget to specify "illegal" migration in regards to this conspiracy theory or did the mask just slip here?
- anonfordays 1y ago
  No need to be any more specific. The only mass migration into the country over the past decade that appeared to be facilitated by the last admimistration was an illegal one.
- like_any_other 1y ago
  You think this is an argument about paperwork?
  - krapp 1y ago
    Obviously not. I just want people to actually say what they mean for once and stop pretending it is an argument about paperwork.
like_any_other 1y ago
The mass migration has been going since before 1986, when Republicans gave amnesty to illegal immigrants, on the promise of getting better border control [1]. They didn't get it, nor was legal immigration reduced in any way, nor did the Republican party itself fight too hard for either. No surprise voters felt betrayed. California passed a referendum to stop literally funding illegal immigration, only for it to be judicially overturned [2]. Again and again and again, any kind of limit on immigration, no matter how popular, was rejected. Is it any surprise it came to this? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_18...
mcphage 1y ago
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standardUser 1y ago
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standardUser 1y ago

I will say that, having grown up in the 80's and 90's far removed from the fascist states of yesteryear, it was always baffling how Western nations succumbed so completely to authoritarianism. I am not longer baffled.

yoyohello13 1y ago
I’m seeing it happen in real time and am still baffled. I realize now there are groups of people with perceptions of reality so different from mine they are basically akin to an alien species.