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Like the messages exchanged between EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla?
by ciupicri 1y ago
Like the messages exchanged between EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen and Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla?
- vixen99 1y agoHow is it she's still in a job?
- holowoodman 1y agoPlain old backroom deals. Same way she got the job. The EU isn't a democracy, it is actually governed by backroom deals between member states' governments.
- grim_io 1y agoI'll take my good old backroom deals EU over the shitcoin peddling US officials any day of the week.
- HPsquared 1y agoFor everything else, there's Monarchy.
- 46891283682 1y agoEU propaganda really pays for itself if people still fall for this false dichotomy.
- grim_io 1y agoI would say there is a much stronger incentive for anti EU propaganda nowadays. Certain state level actors would love some more anti EU sentiments right now. On the other side, who the hell would pay for pro EU propaganda?
- graemep 1y ago> On the other side, who the hell would pay for pro EU propaganda? The EU, countries governed by pro-EU governments. > Certain state level actors would love some more anti EU sentiments right now. Why? What means do they have to produce it?
- grim_io 1y agoWhat means? Are you unaware of the massive Russian government sponsored misinformation and political influencing? And no, whatever the US or the EU do, it is not the same.
- philipallstar 1y ago> On the other side, who the hell would pay for pro EU propaganda? No one - the EU gets its money from force: taxes on citizens and fines from companies created in more entrepreneurial environments than the EU can produce.
- disgruntledphd2 1y ago> taxes on citizens 1% of VAT goes to the EU, yes. > fines from companies created in more entrepreneurial environments than the EU can produce. Mostly the ones that have actually been imposed (on GDPR) go to the national governments.
- philipallstar 1y agoSeems like we agree: you don't need to advertise when you can force money out of people through VAT and rent-seek your citizens as customers.
- grim_io 1y agoAre you against taxes in general, or what's up? I have no problem with it. I would even argue that the EU is under funded.
- wkat4242 1y agoWell yes of course but don't think this couldn't happen here either. A lot of countries like France or Germany are very close to falling to the same extreme right forces the US has.
- raxxorraxor 1y agoI don't. The US has flaws, but the EU is like having an STD.
- belter 1y agoThey should have used S3 Object Lock for her...Since she had already a previous track record of deleting data. When she was the German Defence Minister during the Bundestag “consultants affair” inquiry, data/SMS on her official phones were wiped after they were requested as evidence. And of course the fact that her husband was working for a Pfizer supplier, while she was sending private SMS to the Pfizer CEO, is of course an incredible coincidence. And also the current NATO Secretary... "Dutch PM has been deleting text messages daily for years" - https://nltimes.nl/2022/05/18/dutch-pm-deleting-text-messages-daily-years-report https://nltimes.nl/2022/05/18/dutch-pm-deleting-text-message...
- tehwebguy 1y agoYes, why would this one be exempt?
- rvnx 1y agoNational security. Period.
- dekken_ 1y agoThe EU is not a nation. Now, consider, why should this one be excempt.
- ExoticPearTree 1y agoConsidering that they destroyed those messages, I guess that most likely the EU paid way too much for the vaccines or Pfizer paid so much in kickbacks that if it ever got out it will lead to a lot of people being prosecuted.
- dekken_ 1y agoOh yeah, lack of transparency is essentially evidence of criminal activity when it comes to governments.
- rvnx 1y agoNow it's defense procurements that are kept secret. Wouldn't be surprised if in year 2035 we discover that a lot of corruption happened there. Foreign intelligence knows what's there, but local people don't.