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In this case they didn't remove the app from the users' devices, they “removed Alternative Distribution functionality from iTorrent’s Developer Portal without a
by rickdeckard 1y ago
In this case they didn't remove the app from the users' devices, they “removed Alternative Distribution functionality from iTorrent’s Developer Portal without any warning.”
So they revoked the right of the developer to publish on other stores, and don't allow publishing that app on their own store.
Beside of those apparent "government sanctions-related rules in various jurisdictions" cited as reason by Apple (whatever that means), they now demonstrated that they still have indirect control over the offering of ALL digital markets.
So regardless in which market you want to publish, you still need to remain in good standing with Apple.
Combining that with Apple's ability to observe the install-base of iOS-devices it's quite a conflict of interest. (The least nefarious being Apple courting successful apps from other stores to come over to Apple)
- nazgu1 1y agoI would say they have direct control, as they have to bless app before even it can be published on other stores and can revoke this blessing anytime.
- reactordev 1y agoSo you never really own an Apple device.
- kube-system 1y agoThis seems more like a case of: you don't own other people's web servers.
- reactordev 1y agoNo, more like you don’t own your OS. I definitely have physical ownership of their “server”.
- kube-system 1y agoNo, you definitely don't own Apple's developer portal or any related infrastructure. If you did, then you wouldn't have anything to complain about, you could just fix it. And of course you don't own iOS -- were you under any impression otherwise? I don't really understand this culture of buyers remorse. If you don't buy FOSS, you don't get FOSS.
- reactordev 1y agoSo you’re saying if I buy a computer, I don’t own that computer? This is what it is. I own this device in my pocket. I should be able to install, tinker, take apart, said device - granted voiding its warranty - without a company bricking the device intentionally or removing software from the device simply because I chose a p2p network over a centralized one. Stop defending this. Once you sell something, it’s sold. It’s no longer yours. You may have made it, you may support it, but it’s no longer yours.
- kube-system 1y agoYou do own the physical device and you can do whatever you want with it. You can take it apart and tinker with it however you please. If you don't like the software that they do or don't deliver to you over the internet, that is something entirely different.
- reactordev 1y agoThey didn’t deliver software. A 3rd party did. Stop making straw-man arguments to defend their actions. If the app was pulled from the normal App Store, fine, that’s Apple’s prerogative. But a 3rd party store? The app signing shouldn’t be used a weapon against software “you don’t like”.
- kube-system 1y agoApple revoked notarization -- which is delivered as a service from their computers. If you don't like that the phone connects to Apple's servers and uses the data delivered, then you shouldn't have bought a product that works that way. Or alternatively, you can take it apart and change it. Nobody is stopping you. But Apple doesn't owe you an ongoing service that works exactly the way you like just because you bought one of their devices.
- rickdeckard 1y agoYou may own the device, but everything running on top of it is part of a service in control of Apple. It would be great if vendors would be mandated to clearly separate communication about the product and the services on top, so they would have to compete again on actual product functionality, but so far it's not the case...
- reactordev 1y agoUnlocking/jailbreaking/installing your own software should be legal. I own the device, I should be able to do with it as I please without breaking cybersecurity laws. The issue is this covers IP/Platform Code and covers jailbreaking as that’s a form of reverse engineering in violation of the agreement you signed when you bought the device. It fucking sucks.
- keysdev 1y agoDevil is in the detail