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Wow wow. What an incredible list of dehumanizing genocidal statements. Let me unpack them one by one: > Is Israel doing genocide? Probably. Does the Palestinia
by throw310822 1y ago
Wow wow. What an incredible list of dehumanizing genocidal statements. Let me unpack them one by one:
> Is Israel doing genocide? Probably. Does the Palestinian leadership (hamas) want them to do this? Yep.
So from the start you claim that the Palestinian leadership wants its own people genocided (and themselves killed in the process). Who knows why? They must be rabid beasts, these victims. Better put them out of their pain, eh?
> Who cares more about killing less "civilians"? The effed up thing is it's probably Israel.
And how do you even know? Most of the killing of civilians, also in percentage to the total, has been done by Israel. Is it again because the others are rabid animals? Also, thanks for those scare quotes around "civilians". Wink wink.
> The Arab world doesn't want to deal with Palestinians.
The Arab world is either corrupt by US money or has a gun pointed to its head, both by Israel and by its unwavering supporter, financer and protector, the US. This has been made extremely clear multiple times (hundreds of thousands/ millions dead).
> Palestinian leadership ... only care about maintaining Mafia level control over Gaza.
Again, because they are rabid animals, right? They do not care about freedom, their land, the oppression, being shot at, bombed...
> Palestinians have not been allowed to have an economy in 74 years, live off of international aid, and yer have increased their population by a factor of ten. The only reason you do that is to raise cannon fodder.
So these animals are guilty of multiplying, their numbers prove their intentions, is this what you mean? The fact itself that they are born proves that they're evil.
> Everyone wants the Palestinians to get their own State
Not at all, everyone says this to buy time. In fact Israel abhors the idea (threatens everyone who proposes to recognize Palestine), not because of bs security concerns but because it means putting a fixed border and an end to their expansion. The US does what Israel demands- we've seen very clearly in the past two years that their leverage with Israel is zero, while Israel basically controls most US representatives. Europe is more or less in the same position, subordinate to both Israel and the US. The "peace process" for the two states solution is just a facade. It's a process that should go on forever without reaching its goal, keeping the pretense of legality while Israel colonises the West Bank and now Gaza.
> But if the Palestinians have a state, and provoke a war, then Israel can use even more unrestrained violence against them
Uh? And why? This is a total non-sequitur. Also, why would they provoke a war after reaching their goal of having a state? Again these animals..
> If Israel had used unrestrained carpet bombing like we did to Dresden in world war II, postage stamp sized Gaza would have been completely razed in a month.
In fact Israel has dropped more bombs on Gaza than were dropped on Dresden, causing a similar level of destruction and deaths. It just did it in slow motion. The limit to Israel's actions is not its morality or its military means, it's the international opinion.
> Maybe a Palestinian state run by Hamas and populated by people that have only been raised to hate and die
Again, because differently from you and me, these people don't love life, their spouses, their children, their land.. they're rabid animals, will just bite anything that gets near them, wanting to be shot. This is what you think and you've said multiple times in different ways in your post. Horrific, shameful.
- abdusco 1y ago> The limit to Israel's actions is not its morality or its military means, it's the international opinion. And they're trying their best to silence the Gazan voice by not letting in any international journalists, labeling every journalist as Hamas, killing them all, one camera at a time. Or five.
- HDThoreaun 1y ago> why would they provoke a war after reaching their goal of having a state? Because having their own state isnt their goal, the destruction of zionism is. > The limit to Israel's actions is not its morality or its military means, it's the international opinion. Israel has nukes and is self sufficient. International opinion only limits them until they decide dealing with the palestinians is more important, at which point they can team up with china. Really the only limit to Israels actions are what the israeli people will vote for. I dont really get your obsession with the rabid animal theme. We know that israel cares more about civilians than the palestinian government because israel was content to let the palestinians chill until oct 7th while hamas spent the previous two decades bombarding tel aviv. Hamas has mafia level control over gaza. Thats just a fact, why does that make us racist for pointing out? They use human shields, it is obvious that they do not care about their populace. We dont have to be racist to point out that hamas fucking sucks and has done nothing but make life worse for everyone in gaza. That doesnt make the israeli government good, its just a reminder that things will probably continue to be terrible in the region
- throw310822 1y ago> Because having their own state isnt their goal, the destruction of zionism is Oh of course, these are not people- they don't want their own good, they want to destroy others. Is this what you mean? > israel was content to let the palestinians chill until oct 7th while hamas spent the previous two decades bombarding tel aviv You obviously don't know that Israel bombarded Gaza killing 1800 people in 2008/9, 430 people between 2010 and 2104, 2270 people in 2015, plus 800 more between 2016 to 2023? This 4 times the victims of October 7- and we don't count the blockade and the wrecked economy. > We dont have to be racist to point out that hamas fucking sucks and has done nothing but make life worse for everyone in gaza Yes of course, blame the victims. No, Israel has imprisoned 2 million people inside Gaza for 20 years and periodically bombed them, and this is an unimaginable crime, orders of magnitude worse than Hamas ever did. Frankly, October 7 was horrible but nothing in comparison, plus it was obviously needed to bring the necessary attention to the situation. Fucking sucks, but hey, that's something Israel brought upon itself thanks to its criminal behaviour and the complicity of the West.