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Doesn't React Native depend on this very heavily for iOS?

by AJRF 1y ago

mrbombastic 1y ago
It does, in recent react native versions they show a deprecation warning when running “pod install” directly which is probably a signal they are working on moving to other package managers, but not aware of what the plan is.
oefrha 1y ago
Yeah, and according to https://expo.dev/blog/precompiled-react-native-for-ios https://expo.dev/blog/precompiled-react-native-for-ios and linked https://github.com/react-native-community/discussions-and-proposals/issues/587#issuecomment-2777982810 https://github.com/react-native-community/discussions-and-pr..., it seems moving off CocoaPods has barely moved past planning stage. Latest update from two weeks ago links to https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pull/52909 https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pull/52909 and says it’s very very experimental. Just great…
- AJRF 1y ago
  Gosh, that is a worry. Maybe I can help out here (I imagine the politics of a project this large will frustrate me though)
  - adithyassekhar 1y ago
    Why would you work for free for Facebook
    - mrbombastic 1y ago
      rn is open source so I don’t personally see it as working for free for facebook but rather working for free for the dev community
      - adithyassekhar 1y ago
        There is no dev community. Is there a developers organization (unions if you must) which fights for minimum pay or work standards? No there's not in fact it's actively frowned upon because if salaries are standardized no one will get to enjoy those huge faang pays. It'll be averages. That is not the capitalist way. You're doing the work highly paid facebook and vercel employees are getting paid for.
- robertjpayne 1y ago
  It's not actually that concerning. RN's pods are vended via npm not trunk so trunk going read-only will not have an outsized impact on RN. The risk is that over time Cocoapods will no longer work to integrate dependencies with ways Xcode wants them to be. Switching to SPM is a massive undertaking for a large project with many intertwined dependencies and configuration options. It's far less configurable than Cocoapods with basically no scripting options during install. Their progress already is pretty decent!
  - oefrha 1y ago
    I think the most concerning part is all the third party libraries already on life support or already abandoned a few years ago will all die during the switch.
oulipo2 1y ago
Capacitor too, for hybrid mobile apps
cthulberg 1y ago
Flutter too: https://docs.flutter.dev/get-started/install/macos/mobile-ios#install-cocoapods https://docs.flutter.dev/get-started/install/macos/mobile-io...
- arnath 1y ago
  Flutter has moved to Swift Package Manager, it’s just not enabled by default iirc
  - tananaev 1y ago
    From the official docs it sounds more like experimental support that's still under development.
- chairhairair 1y ago
  Already has complete support for SPM.
everyone 1y ago
Unity also afaik.
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Doesn't React Native depend on this very heavily for iOS?

by AJRF 1y ago

Doesn't React Native depend on this very heavily for iOS?

It does, in recent react native versions they show a deprecation warning when running “pod install” directly which is probably a signal they are working on moving to other package managers, but not aware of what the plan is.

oefrha 1y ago

Yeah, and according to https://expo.dev/blog/precompiled-react-native-for-ios https://expo.dev/blog/precompiled-react-native-for-ios and linked https://github.com/react-native-community/discussions-and-proposals/issues/587#issuecomment-2777982810 https://github.com/react-native-community/discussions-and-pr..., it seems moving off CocoaPods has barely moved past planning stage. Latest update from two weeks ago links to https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pull/52909 https://github.com/facebook/react-native/pull/52909 and says it’s very very experimental. Just great…

AJRF 1y ago
Gosh, that is a worry. Maybe I can help out here (I imagine the politics of a project this large will frustrate me though)
- adithyassekhar 1y ago
  Why would you work for free for Facebook
  - mrbombastic 1y ago
    rn is open source so I don’t personally see it as working for free for facebook but rather working for free for the dev community
    - adithyassekhar 1y ago
      There is no dev community. Is there a developers organization (unions if you must) which fights for minimum pay or work standards? No there's not in fact it's actively frowned upon because if salaries are standardized no one will get to enjoy those huge faang pays. It'll be averages. That is not the capitalist way. You're doing the work highly paid facebook and vercel employees are getting paid for.
robertjpayne 1y ago
It's not actually that concerning. RN's pods are vended via npm not trunk so trunk going read-only will not have an outsized impact on RN. The risk is that over time Cocoapods will no longer work to integrate dependencies with ways Xcode wants them to be. Switching to SPM is a massive undertaking for a large project with many intertwined dependencies and configuration options. It's far less configurable than Cocoapods with basically no scripting options during install. Their progress already is pretty decent!
- oefrha 1y ago
  I think the most concerning part is all the third party libraries already on life support or already abandoned a few years ago will all die during the switch.

oulipo2 1y ago

Capacitor too, for hybrid mobile apps

cthulberg 1y ago

Flutter too: https://docs.flutter.dev/get-started/install/macos/mobile-ios#install-cocoapods https://docs.flutter.dev/get-started/install/macos/mobile-io...

arnath 1y ago
Flutter has moved to Swift Package Manager, it’s just not enabled by default iirc
- tananaev 1y ago
  From the official docs it sounds more like experimental support that's still under development.
chairhairair 1y ago
Already has complete support for SPM.

everyone 1y ago

Unity also afaik.

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