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Injecting ads into answers will be the next step for the search market. Reddit is doing it already. And unlike reddit post or comment ads, it may be very diffic

by p_ing 1y ago

Injecting ads into answers will be the next step for the search market. Reddit is doing it already. And unlike reddit post or comment ads, it may be very difficult to block.

duncanfwalker 1y ago
Oh god, this has just made me reflect that we're in the golden age of generative AI - not in technology terms, in user experience terms. We're in the period where the major products are competing against each other before they switch into enshitfication mode. You're certainly right, there's going to be ads in the answers and probably worse. I'm imagining companies paying to introduce ideas as subtle subtexts to millions of unrelated answers or platforms deliberately engineering the ux to maximise understanding of our drives and preferences purely so it can be sold.
- aftergibson 1y ago
  Of course. Were in the burning VCs cash by the truckload phase. And inference isn't getting cheaper. I'd argue this is the worst its ever been in terms of over extending a business and they might not be able to enshitificate fast enough.
  - justahuman74 1y ago
    Inference will get much much cheaper. We're paying $30000 for a top of the line gpu right now, but that's only because everyone insists on buying nvidia, so nvidia has full incentive to charge the absolute maximum. Long term that vendor lock in will go away and prices will go down to something reasonable. Long ago CPUs were super expensive too, now they're so cheap we put them in toothbrushes
    - ares623 1y ago
      > Long ago CPUs were super expensive too, now they're so cheap we put them in toothbrushes Long ago GPUs were already affordable. We used to buy them to play _games_!
      - p_ing 1y ago
        A Voodoo2 12MB was only $600 in today's money!
- pbronez 1y ago
  You better believe I’m going full self-hosted AI the moment I get a whiff of sponsored content in an AI response I paid for.
  - _DeadFred_ 1y ago
    Some decent tech billionaire should do what Andrew Carnegie did for libraries but for AI. Would be really cool if they tied it to local libraries.
hooloovoo_zoo 1y ago
It's just a new era in the ad-block wars where my ad-block LLM tries to excise the ads from their ad-generating LLM.
ceroxylon 1y ago
I had lunch with an entrepreneur with a "big idea" to convince major LLM platforms to feature ads in their answers, using businesses that they specify. It was a very short lunch.
- BLKNSLVR 1y ago
  I'd guess you paid for both meals but they asked for the receipt to claim it as a business expense.

by p_ing 1y ago

Injecting ads into answers will be the next step for the search market. Reddit is doing it already. And unlike reddit post or comment ads, it may be very difficult to block.

duncanfwalker 1y ago

Oh god, this has just made me reflect that we're in the golden age of generative AI - not in technology terms, in user experience terms. We're in the period where the major products are competing against each other before they switch into enshitfication mode. You're certainly right, there's going to be ads in the answers and probably worse. I'm imagining companies paying to introduce ideas as subtle subtexts to millions of unrelated answers or platforms deliberately engineering the ux to maximise understanding of our drives and preferences purely so it can be sold.

aftergibson 1y ago
Of course. Were in the burning VCs cash by the truckload phase. And inference isn't getting cheaper. I'd argue this is the worst its ever been in terms of over extending a business and they might not be able to enshitificate fast enough.
- justahuman74 1y ago
  Inference will get much much cheaper. We're paying $30000 for a top of the line gpu right now, but that's only because everyone insists on buying nvidia, so nvidia has full incentive to charge the absolute maximum. Long term that vendor lock in will go away and prices will go down to something reasonable. Long ago CPUs were super expensive too, now they're so cheap we put them in toothbrushes
  - ares623 1y ago
    > Long ago CPUs were super expensive too, now they're so cheap we put them in toothbrushes Long ago GPUs were already affordable. We used to buy them to play _games_!
    - p_ing 1y ago
      A Voodoo2 12MB was only $600 in today's money!
pbronez 1y ago
You better believe I’m going full self-hosted AI the moment I get a whiff of sponsored content in an AI response I paid for.
- _DeadFred_ 1y ago
  Some decent tech billionaire should do what Andrew Carnegie did for libraries but for AI. Would be really cool if they tied it to local libraries.

hooloovoo_zoo 1y ago

It's just a new era in the ad-block wars where my ad-block LLM tries to excise the ads from their ad-generating LLM.

ceroxylon 1y ago

I had lunch with an entrepreneur with a "big idea" to convince major LLM platforms to feature ads in their answers, using businesses that they specify. It was a very short lunch.

BLKNSLVR 1y ago
I'd guess you paid for both meals but they asked for the receipt to claim it as a business expense.