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Alright you don't have to "scan every word" but at least read a little bit about the guy https://www.drvinayprasad.com/p/yes-mrna-vaccine-science-should-be htt

• timr 1y ago
  Did you read it? It doesn't say what you think it says. To wit: he says that the mRNA cancer vaccines are a scientific dead end, that the existing mRNA vaccines' research can be funded by industry, there are good alternatives, and that the technology has been tainted in the public mind. Therefore he supports de-prioritizing the public research. None of these arguments can be characterized as "wants to defund mRNA research". As someone who largely agrees with all of those points, if you came to me tomorrow and said "here's a promising new application for mRNA technology that industry won't support", then I'd consider funding it. I'm so sick of people treating nuanced arguments like bingo cards.
  • ceejayoz 1y ago
    > To wit: he says that the mRNA cancer vaccines are a scientific dead end, that the existing mRNA vaccines' research can be funded by industry, there are good alternatives, and that the technology has been tainted in the public mind. Therefore he supports de-prioritizing the research. > None of these arguments can be characterized as "wants to defund mRNA research". If I said "paying our mortgage is a dead-end, someone else can fund it, there are good alternatives to paying it, and therefore I'm de-prioritizing paying it"… Would "I'm defunding our mortgage" be a substantially accurate summary of my position? (Yes.)
    • timr 1y ago
      Defunding == "taking all the money away". Deprioritizing == "giving priority to something else". It isn't hard to be nuanced. Particularly in this case, when you realize that the manufacturers of the mRNA Covid vaccines have made literally billions of dollars with which to do research.
      • ceejayoz 1y ago
        > It isn't hard to be nuanced. It takes a lot of effort to find that much nuance. The nuanced description for your position is "a pretty huge stretch".
        • timr 1y ago
          It's literally the definitions of the words.
          • ceejayoz 1y ago
            Look who's suddenly struggling with nuance now. Deprioritizing something enough becomes defunding pretty fast. Like that five year old JIRA ticket that no one bothers with.
            • timr 1y ago
              > Deprioritizing something enough becomes defunding pretty fast. And right there, you acknowledge the difference. Have a nice day.
              • ceejayoz 1y ago
                > And right there, you acknowledge the difference. "I'm not murdering you, I'm just doing a very, very large blood draw!" Do you find people fall for this often?
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    • notahacker 1y ago
      Also, regardless of whether his other arguments are neutral and technical in between swipes at Biden policy, I don't think a "Bay Area liberal" opens his argument with the suggestion that NIH funding policies should be heavily influenced by the possibility certain classes of treatment might be refused by conservatives sufficiently susceptible to conspiratorial arguments against them...
  • anthem2025 1y ago
    I’d characterize it as someone who wants to defund mRNA research, because that’s literally what you said he wants to do. But I’m not a fascist trying to justify the total destruction of the CDC anti-vaxxer dipshits.