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> It's a political appointment. Could you try to be like, even 10% less knee-jerk partisan? It's an appointment in the FDA (which requires actual technical kn

by timr 1y ago

> It's a political appointment. Could you try to be like, even 10% less knee-jerk partisan? It's an appointment in the FDA (which requires actual technical knowledge) and Prasad is a well-documented member of the political left, to the point where he was recently chased out of the FDA for being on the left.

ceejayoz 1y ago
> It's an appointment in the FDA… That does not make it non-political. The FDA has both political appointees and civil service roles, just like other government agencies. https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/political-appointees-and-career-civil-service-positions-faq/ https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/political-app... > Prasad is a well-documented member of the political left lmao Being on Loomer's shitlist is not "documentation".
- timr 1y ago
  > That does not make it non-political. The FDA has both political appointees and civil service roles, just like other government agencies. https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/political-app https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/political-app... OK, so which one is this position? Do you actually know? (Google tells me that the position of CBER director is officially non-political, though since Peter Marks was forced to resign, it's now "more political than before".) > lmao Yeah, you're not being partisan at all. I tell you that Prasad is a liberal (an extremely well-documented fact), and your response is..."lmao".
  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    > OK, so which one is this position? Do you actually know? Yes, we do. His role is not a civil service one. > I tell you that Prasad is a liberal (an extremely well-documented fact), and your response is..."lmao". Go on, document it.
    - timr 1y ago
      > Yes, we do. His role is not a civil service one. Incorrect. I just looked it up. It's a civil service appointment. > Go on, document it. He's said many, many times on his podcast(s), twitter and elsewhere that he's on the left, and that he voted for Sanders. So sure, I could dig each one of those up for you, or you could actually believe it when people on the right attack him for being a "lefist". Like this, for example: "Vinay Prasad Is a Bernie Sanders Acolyte in MAHA Drag" https://www.wsj.com/opinion/vinay-prasad-is-a-bernie-sanders-acolyte-in-maha-drag-healthcare-bfc3be57 https://www.wsj.com/opinion/vinay-prasad-is-a-bernie-sanders...
      - ceejayoz 1y ago
        > Incorrect. I just looked it up. It's a civil service appointment. I think you're mixing up "requires Senate confirmation" and the much broader "political appointee", but I'd welcome the cite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_in_the_... "According to the United States Office of Government Ethics, a political appointee is 'any employee who is appointed by the President, the Vice President, or agency head'." (That'll be Makary.) > "Vinay Prasad Is a Bernie Sanders Acolyte in MAHA Drag" A WSJ oped is not documentation. > that he voted for Sanders Yeah, that's not proof either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters
        timr 1y ago
        I'm not going to dig through every hour of his podcast to find all the times that he said himself that he is on the left and voted for Sanders. If you're that motivated, you can easily go listen to him, and then you might actually know something. > I think you're mixing up "requires Senate confirmation" and the much broader "political appointee", but I'd welcome the cite. I'm not mixing it up. It's a civil role. Peter Marks was the prior head of CBER since circa 2012. He was a civil servant. Nothing about the position has changed since he left. He resigned, and Makary recruited Prasad. By your standards of "appointment", every job in my life has been a political appointment by my boss.

by timr 1y ago

ceejayoz 1y ago

> It's an appointment in the FDA… That does not make it non-political. The FDA has both political appointees and civil service roles, just like other government agencies. https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/political-appointees-and-career-civil-service-positions-faq/ https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/political-app... > Prasad is a well-documented member of the political left lmao Being on Loomer's shitlist is not "documentation".

timr 1y ago
> That does not make it non-political. The FDA has both political appointees and civil service roles, just like other government agencies. https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/political-app https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/political-app... OK, so which one is this position? Do you actually know? (Google tells me that the position of CBER director is officially non-political, though since Peter Marks was forced to resign, it's now "more political than before".) > lmao Yeah, you're not being partisan at all. I tell you that Prasad is a liberal (an extremely well-documented fact), and your response is..."lmao".
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  > OK, so which one is this position? Do you actually know? Yes, we do. His role is not a civil service one. > I tell you that Prasad is a liberal (an extremely well-documented fact), and your response is..."lmao". Go on, document it.
  - timr 1y ago
    > Yes, we do. His role is not a civil service one. Incorrect. I just looked it up. It's a civil service appointment. > Go on, document it. He's said many, many times on his podcast(s), twitter and elsewhere that he's on the left, and that he voted for Sanders. So sure, I could dig each one of those up for you, or you could actually believe it when people on the right attack him for being a "lefist". Like this, for example: "Vinay Prasad Is a Bernie Sanders Acolyte in MAHA Drag" https://www.wsj.com/opinion/vinay-prasad-is-a-bernie-sanders-acolyte-in-maha-drag-healthcare-bfc3be57 https://www.wsj.com/opinion/vinay-prasad-is-a-bernie-sanders...
    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      > Incorrect. I just looked it up. It's a civil service appointment. I think you're mixing up "requires Senate confirmation" and the much broader "political appointee", but I'd welcome the cite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_appointments_in_the_... "According to the United States Office of Government Ethics, a political appointee is 'any employee who is appointed by the President, the Vice President, or agency head'." (That'll be Makary.) > "Vinay Prasad Is a Bernie Sanders Acolyte in MAHA Drag" A WSJ oped is not documentation. > that he voted for Sanders Yeah, that's not proof either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanders%E2%80%93Trump_voters
      - timr 1y ago
        I'm not going to dig through every hour of his podcast to find all the times that he said himself that he is on the left and voted for Sanders. If you're that motivated, you can easily go listen to him, and then you might actually know something. > I think you're mixing up "requires Senate confirmation" and the much broader "political appointee", but I'd welcome the cite. I'm not mixing it up. It's a civil role. Peter Marks was the prior head of CBER since circa 2012. He was a civil servant. Nothing about the position has changed since he left. He resigned, and Makary recruited Prasad. By your standards of "appointment", every job in my life has been a political appointment by my boss.