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Who gets to "demonitize" the videos? YouTube. Who gets to process the copyright strike and tell creators they need to remove the content in order to not have c

Who gets to "demonitize" the videos? YouTube. Who gets to process the copyright strike and tell creators they need to remove the content in order to not have consequences? YouTube. Who gets to close down the channel even before any lawsuit against a copyright allegation is conducted? YouTube. Beato is fighting BMG because he sees YouTube as the hand that feeds him, but he could get rid of all the BMG annoyances if he was brave enough to own his distribution channel.

AstralStorm 1y ago
YouTube could be subjected to a class action in theory not in practice, because the terms of the site are so loose you can get ejected with no recourse and lose wages, while indemnifying them. UMG however has not any relationship with the author so they actually can be sued. If they hate their subcontractor YouTube for it, that's their problem. They're the legal entity on behalf of which blocking is done, after all.
0xDEAFBEAD 1y ago
Youtube has those policies in place in order to comply with copyright law, yes? In the long run, I would expect smaller platforms to adopt similar policies as they grow, in order to achieve compliance with copyright law.
- rglullis 1y ago
  > Youtube has those policies in place in order to comply with copyright law A lot of it is just CYA and enforcement theater. YouTube could pretty much have one dedicated account manager for someone with the subscriber count of Beato who would work as a first-line of defense against frivolous/bogus copyright claims. > I would expect smaller platforms to adopt similar policies as they grow But then the content creators who take ownership of their social media presence will by definition be a lot closer to those making these types of decisions, and they will be able to say "I don't think I am infringing on anything, if you really disagree you will have to go to court".
  - 0xDEAFBEAD 1y ago
    >YouTube could pretty much have one dedicated account manager for someone with the subscriber count of Beato who would work as a first-line of defense against frivolous/bogus copyright claims. Are there any Youtube alternatives which actually do this, though? I don't think it actually makes a difference whether Youtube hires the lawyer, or whether Beato hires the lawyer. It comes out of Youtube ad revenues either way. It's better for Beato to be the one to choose who he wants to represent him.
    - rglullis 1y ago
      Except that YouTube wouldn't have to hire a lawyer to do any of that. A single Jr account manager from Google should be able to have a dashboard that can reject/overrule bogus claims, and send an automatic response to the copyright trolls telling them where to go if they want to escalate this and get real lawyers involved.

AstralStorm 1y ago

YouTube could be subjected to a class action in theory not in practice, because the terms of the site are so loose you can get ejected with no recourse and lose wages, while indemnifying them. UMG however has not any relationship with the author so they actually can be sued. If they hate their subcontractor YouTube for it, that's their problem. They're the legal entity on behalf of which blocking is done, after all.

0xDEAFBEAD 1y ago

Youtube has those policies in place in order to comply with copyright law, yes? In the long run, I would expect smaller platforms to adopt similar policies as they grow, in order to achieve compliance with copyright law.

rglullis 1y ago
> Youtube has those policies in place in order to comply with copyright law A lot of it is just CYA and enforcement theater. YouTube could pretty much have one dedicated account manager for someone with the subscriber count of Beato who would work as a first-line of defense against frivolous/bogus copyright claims. > I would expect smaller platforms to adopt similar policies as they grow But then the content creators who take ownership of their social media presence will by definition be a lot closer to those making these types of decisions, and they will be able to say "I don't think I am infringing on anything, if you really disagree you will have to go to court".
- 0xDEAFBEAD 1y ago
  >YouTube could pretty much have one dedicated account manager for someone with the subscriber count of Beato who would work as a first-line of defense against frivolous/bogus copyright claims. Are there any Youtube alternatives which actually do this, though? I don't think it actually makes a difference whether Youtube hires the lawyer, or whether Beato hires the lawyer. It comes out of Youtube ad revenues either way. It's better for Beato to be the one to choose who he wants to represent him.
  - rglullis 1y ago
    Except that YouTube wouldn't have to hire a lawyer to do any of that. A single Jr account manager from Google should be able to have a dashboard that can reject/overrule bogus claims, and send an automatic response to the copyright trolls telling them where to go if they want to escalate this and get real lawyers involved.