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What is the point of setting up your own email server if all of your sent messages go to spam for the majority of gmail/o365 users?

racingmars 1y ago
> What is the point of setting up your own email server if all of your sent messages go to spam for the majority of gmail/o365 users? I set up a new mailserver a few years ago and have had no delivery problems whatsoever. All messages get through to gmail and outlook/o365 inboxes I've sent to. Didn't even have to register the IP with O365, it's just worked flawlessly from day one. That was from an IP address/netblock not associated with cloud or VPS providers, so initial reputation may have been higher. A few months ago I set up a mail server on a VM in Digital Ocean, and have had no delivery problems to gmail/Google Apps recipients. More recently, for new IPs sending mail into O365, they appear to be blocked by default but the rejection message gives you a URL to go to where you can register your IP(s). After doing that, we haven't seen any problems. If you end up getting an IP that has been associated with previous spam or abuse, I assume your experience will be different. But in my experience, my handful of servers have not had delivery problems. This is all, of course, with proper reverse DNS records that match what the server advertises in its HELO/EHLO, SPF and DKIM all set up, etc.
- zenmac 1y ago
  Yeah there are shadow blocks on all these major email services. I have just slowly asking my circles to stop using them. And I'm NOT just talking about gmail, Rackspace and ATT as well. (Proton and Tuta are good default for non tech ppl ATM.) For more regular email user, it is better that one host or find some reliable person or entity that can host your email under domain that your own.
- speckx 1y ago
  Don't forget the PTR record.
huflungdung 1y ago
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asimovDev 1y ago
honestly I wouldn't mind an email server just to have temp throwaway emails for services that require email signup. Not sure how those that detect temp mail services would work with this though
- p4bl0 1y ago
  Many email provider let you have a virtually infinite number of aliases, you can do want you want here with that.
qustrolabe 1y ago
So that your domain could one day expire and someone could host their email server completely impersonating you
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago
I personally use my server to have people contact me mostly ( it also helps to flag, which stores sell what emails to who ). Although, by now, I likely have enough 'karma' equivalent to not be considered spam by other providers.

racingmars 1y ago

> What is the point of setting up your own email server if all of your sent messages go to spam for the majority of gmail/o365 users? I set up a new mailserver a few years ago and have had no delivery problems whatsoever. All messages get through to gmail and outlook/o365 inboxes I've sent to. Didn't even have to register the IP with O365, it's just worked flawlessly from day one. That was from an IP address/netblock not associated with cloud or VPS providers, so initial reputation may have been higher. A few months ago I set up a mail server on a VM in Digital Ocean, and have had no delivery problems to gmail/Google Apps recipients. More recently, for new IPs sending mail into O365, they appear to be blocked by default but the rejection message gives you a URL to go to where you can register your IP(s). After doing that, we haven't seen any problems. If you end up getting an IP that has been associated with previous spam or abuse, I assume your experience will be different. But in my experience, my handful of servers have not had delivery problems. This is all, of course, with proper reverse DNS records that match what the server advertises in its HELO/EHLO, SPF and DKIM all set up, etc.

zenmac 1y ago
Yeah there are shadow blocks on all these major email services. I have just slowly asking my circles to stop using them. And I'm NOT just talking about gmail, Rackspace and ATT as well. (Proton and Tuta are good default for non tech ppl ATM.) For more regular email user, it is better that one host or find some reliable person or entity that can host your email under domain that your own.
speckx 1y ago
Don't forget the PTR record.

huflungdung 1y ago

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asimovDev 1y ago

honestly I wouldn't mind an email server just to have temp throwaway emails for services that require email signup. Not sure how those that detect temp mail services would work with this though

p4bl0 1y ago
Many email provider let you have a virtually infinite number of aliases, you can do want you want here with that.

qustrolabe 1y ago

So that your domain could one day expire and someone could host their email server completely impersonating you

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago

I personally use my server to have people contact me mostly ( it also helps to flag, which stores sell what emails to who ). Although, by now, I likely have enough 'karma' equivalent to not be considered spam by other providers.