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It is a very interesting article, but I'm a little horrified at the amount of effort going into military projects to kill more efficiently.

by conorh 1y ago

Animats 1y ago
"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."
- fooblaster 1y ago
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  - ares623 1y ago
    Or coming soon to a “protest” near you
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XorNot 1y ago
Yeah you might want to take a look at what's happening in Europe then. Because your options are "have an effective conventional military force, ideally enough to deter an invasion" and "have nuclear weapons and threaten Armageddon at the smallest of provocations" (which was correctly identified as impractical during the Cold War: would the US trade the Eastern Seaboard to protect Berlin? Fairly obviously no...)
- theyinwhy 1y ago
  Europe has nuclear arsenal so I really don't get your point.
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spookie 1y ago
Humans never learn, there will always be some crazy moron controlling some country.
TiredOfLife 1y ago
Tell that to russia
rramadass 1y ago
Oh Man; You need to shake off your naivete asap! Our entire Social/Economic/Psychological value system has been completely remade to value only Money and Power. Humanity/Ethics/Morals/Community/Individuals are only useful in so far as they sustain the system in pursuit of the above objectives else they are all just a hindrance and must be manipulated/overlooked/removed. Our very mastery of Science and its consequent Technology has enabled the exercise of all "our" (i.e. Individuals/Groups/Corporations/Governments/etc.) powers in service of Money/Power to a degree unimaginable before the Scientific Revolution. Nothing matters but only the sustaining of "The System" which has taken a life of its own independent of the Humans (and other life forms) who inhabit it. To explain using pop-culture references, you are mere disposable "Soylent Green" in "The Matrix" all of which are embedded in omniscient "The System". References: 1) Notes on Nationalism by George Orwell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_Nationalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_Nationalism 2) Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control by Kathleen Taylor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing:_The_Science_of_Thought_Control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing:_The_Science_of_T... 3) Reflexive Control - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexive_control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexive_control 4) Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes by Jacques Ellul - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_Men%27s_Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M... 5) The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Technological_Society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Technological_Society

It is a very interesting article, but I'm a little horrified at the amount of effort going into military projects to kill more efficiently.

by conorh 1y ago

It is a very interesting article, but I'm a little horrified at the amount of effort going into military projects to kill more efficiently.

Animats 1y ago

"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."

fooblaster 1y ago
[flagged]
- ares623 1y ago
  Or coming soon to a “protest” near you
- deleted 1y ago
  [deleted]

XorNot 1y ago

Yeah you might want to take a look at what's happening in Europe then. Because your options are "have an effective conventional military force, ideally enough to deter an invasion" and "have nuclear weapons and threaten Armageddon at the smallest of provocations" (which was correctly identified as impractical during the Cold War: would the US trade the Eastern Seaboard to protect Berlin? Fairly obviously no...)

theyinwhy 1y ago
Europe has nuclear arsenal so I really don't get your point.
- deleted 1y ago
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spookie 1y ago

Humans never learn, there will always be some crazy moron controlling some country.

TiredOfLife 1y ago

Tell that to russia

rramadass 1y ago

Oh Man; You need to shake off your naivete asap! Our entire Social/Economic/Psychological value system has been completely remade to value only Money and Power. Humanity/Ethics/Morals/Community/Individuals are only useful in so far as they sustain the system in pursuit of the above objectives else they are all just a hindrance and must be manipulated/overlooked/removed. Our very mastery of Science and its consequent Technology has enabled the exercise of all "our" (i.e. Individuals/Groups/Corporations/Governments/etc.) powers in service of Money/Power to a degree unimaginable before the Scientific Revolution. Nothing matters but only the sustaining of "The System" which has taken a life of its own independent of the Humans (and other life forms) who inhabit it. To explain using pop-culture references, you are mere disposable "Soylent Green" in "The Matrix" all of which are embedded in omniscient "The System". References: 1) Notes on Nationalism by George Orwell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_Nationalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_Nationalism 2) Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control by Kathleen Taylor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing:_The_Science_of_Thought_Control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing:_The_Science_of_T... 3) Reflexive Control - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexive_control https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexive_control 4) Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes by Jacques Ellul - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_Men%27s_Attitudes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M... 5) The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Technological_Society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Technological_Society