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No, Inter is fantastic, it is the only typeface that produces legible text on one of the monitors I have with DPI a bit lower than 82 (I know...) I look at mos

No, Inter is fantastic, it is the only typeface that produces legible text on one of the monitors I have with DPI a bit lower than 82 (I know...) I look at most fonts that get recommended here and it's immediately obvious they weren't tested on low end monitors at all (which is what most people I know use). (As an aside, Cascadia is the only compact monospace font that looks good on this POS. Other good looking typefaces are too vertically stretched — oversized x-height.)

delta_p_delta_x 1y ago
> most fonts that get recommended here and it's immediately obvious they weren't tested on low end monitors at all Most new typefaces aren't, I concede that (especially the ones developed on Macs), but older ones were developed on monitors with lower pixel density (or even CRTs), ergo my point about good hinting.
amelius 1y ago
Why must a UI use the same font on low DPI displays as on high DPI displays?
- Kwpolska 1y ago
  I don't want the font to change just because I moved a window from my high DPI laptop display to my external low DPI display.
  - amelius 1y ago
    Most people place functionality over design, but there is no reason why you can't have it your way. Just make the fonts configurable. Your usecase isn't very common so I wouldn't make _that_ the default choice, though.
    - Kwpolska 1y ago
      My use-case isn't very common? Apple has been selling laptops with high DPI screens since 2012, and over in the PC land, many laptops that aren’t cheapo garbage ship with screens that run at 125% or 150% scale. On the other hand, many external displays run at 100% scale, or otherwise at a different scale than the primary screen.
      - amelius 1y ago
        Ok, in the Apple world choosing design over functionality is quite normal, I guess. Maybe things should work differently there. I don't know because I don't use Apple hardware and actually try to avoid it. Anyway, I don't think that changing fonts on different displays is really a problem. If you're reading a book and a magazine, then switching between the two will also cause the fonts which you see to switch, and it's not like your brain has any trouble with it. Basically, your brain can quickly and easily get comfortable with the idea of looking at A and seeing font 1, and looking at B and seeing font 2.
        Kwpolska 1y ago
        I went to dell.com, looked at laptops, and the first laptop they showed me [0] has this: 16" 2.5K (2560 x 1600) Anti-Glare Non-Touch 300nits WVA/IPS Display with ComfortView Plus This is absolutely unusable at 100% scale. Windows probably defaults to something between 150% and 200%, and probably on the further end of the scale. And if you don’t want crisp fonts, the alternative [1] is: 16.0-inch 16:10 FHD+ (1920x1200) Touch 300nits WVA/IPS Display with ComfortView Windows defaults to 125% scale on screens like this. 100% is not comfortable at typical viewing distances. [0] https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-16-plus-laptop/spd/dell-db16250-laptop https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-16-plus-la... [1] https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-16-laptop/spd/dell-dc16250-laptop https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-16-laptop/...
    - sublinear 1y ago
      I think it's very common to have a large 1080p screen as a second monitor (projectors and TVs). When pixels are that big, the readability of a good font allows you to actually use the extra space instead of just making everything huge.

delta_p_delta_x 1y ago

> most fonts that get recommended here and it's immediately obvious they weren't tested on low end monitors at all Most new typefaces aren't, I concede that (especially the ones developed on Macs), but older ones were developed on monitors with lower pixel density (or even CRTs), ergo my point about good hinting.

amelius 1y ago

Why must a UI use the same font on low DPI displays as on high DPI displays?

Kwpolska 1y ago
I don't want the font to change just because I moved a window from my high DPI laptop display to my external low DPI display.
- amelius 1y ago
  Most people place functionality over design, but there is no reason why you can't have it your way. Just make the fonts configurable. Your usecase isn't very common so I wouldn't make _that_ the default choice, though.
  - Kwpolska 1y ago
    My use-case isn't very common? Apple has been selling laptops with high DPI screens since 2012, and over in the PC land, many laptops that aren’t cheapo garbage ship with screens that run at 125% or 150% scale. On the other hand, many external displays run at 100% scale, or otherwise at a different scale than the primary screen.
    - amelius 1y ago
      Ok, in the Apple world choosing design over functionality is quite normal, I guess. Maybe things should work differently there. I don't know because I don't use Apple hardware and actually try to avoid it. Anyway, I don't think that changing fonts on different displays is really a problem. If you're reading a book and a magazine, then switching between the two will also cause the fonts which you see to switch, and it's not like your brain has any trouble with it. Basically, your brain can quickly and easily get comfortable with the idea of looking at A and seeing font 1, and looking at B and seeing font 2.
      - Kwpolska 1y ago
        I went to dell.com, looked at laptops, and the first laptop they showed me [0] has this: 16" 2.5K (2560 x 1600) Anti-Glare Non-Touch 300nits WVA/IPS Display with ComfortView Plus This is absolutely unusable at 100% scale. Windows probably defaults to something between 150% and 200%, and probably on the further end of the scale. And if you don’t want crisp fonts, the alternative [1] is: 16.0-inch 16:10 FHD+ (1920x1200) Touch 300nits WVA/IPS Display with ComfortView Windows defaults to 125% scale on screens like this. 100% is not comfortable at typical viewing distances. [0] https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-16-plus-laptop/spd/dell-db16250-laptop https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-16-plus-la... [1] https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-16-laptop/spd/dell-dc16250-laptop https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/dell-16-laptop/...
  - sublinear 1y ago
    I think it's very common to have a large 1080p screen as a second monitor (projectors and TVs). When pixels are that big, the readability of a good font allows you to actually use the extra space instead of just making everything huge.