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Fingers crossed for this - it seems like Zed is kinda “going back to the roots” (of working on collaboration) and leaving this in place to disrupt the agentic I

Fingers crossed for this - it seems like Zed is kinda “going back to the roots” (of working on collaboration) and leaving this in place to disrupt the agentic IDE category (and make themselves not have to spend time on competing in it). Curious to see how adoption among cli agents will go (it’s nice to see Gemini cli already in). The level of competition in the LLM and coding assistant market is always nice to see, and this only helps to make costs of switching between offerings even smaller.

giancarlostoro 1y ago
I'm basically sold on Zed, it has everything I have wanted from an editor for years, and that's without the amazing other things that they added that I wasn't even envisioning. For years I've prototyped a few different editors because of frustration with the status quo. There's a lot of work that goes into a good editor, and Zed has definitely done the legwork. I welcome them openly collaborating.
- iamkd 1y ago
  Zed is awesome, but the absence of side-by-side diffs just drives me crazy, so I'm back to Cursor / VSCode. Turns out I can't work without it. This is the top rated discussion on Github though: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770 https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770
  - Aeolun 1y ago
    I’m sure anyone invested enough could contribute that xD Like, I agree that that’s the thing I want most out of Zed right now, but not enough to do it myself.
- 9dev 1y ago
  You can take my IntelliJ IDE out of my cold, dead hands. I don’t understand why anyone would want to miss out on all the automatic inference and interlinked code base, the integrated tooling… Every time I try something like Zed or VS Code, I end up disappointed or install a no longer supported plugin only to learn it falls way short. Yes, Zed's startup time is way better, and it definitely feels snappier. But when I work on code, I need to jump around the code. I want the debugger to show me the current line in the file, annotating the value of every variable right in the source. I want to jump to property usages. I want to automatically rename a function everywhere intelligently, not using search-replace. I want to get completion for my database tables, and browse them from the IDE. And lots more.
  - hactually 1y ago
    It's fine, it sounds like you're an enterprise programmer and that suits your role/use case. I use zed with the inbuilt terminal, additional terminals + tools like pgcli and docker. I would feel trapped/impotent using an IDE, esp combined with the lack of snappiness a java app gives you.
    - 9dev 1y ago
      Couldn’t be further from Enterprise luckily, but it leaves me wondering if I’m missing the forest for the trees? Maybe it’s just a difference in working style. I would feel exhausted by having to learn and maintain a bunch of tools instead of just one, sprinkled with occasional anxiety if there is a better or upstart competing tool that I should be using.
      - mvATM99 1y ago
        I don't think youre missing out necessarily. I would riot if i couldn't use Pycharm anymore, for big python projects just nothing beats it right now. I do use VSCode too, but mostly for quick scripting or non-programming projects. and even then i installed a bunch of extensions to make it more like Pycharm.
      - k9294 1y ago
        It’s most likely about different ecosystems. JetBrains provides excellent support for many programming ecosystems, but if yours isn’t supported, you don’t have much choice. I was an avid JetBrains user until I needed to work with Elixir. You simply can’t do Elixir in their IDEs. So I switched to VS Code. After more than a year of using VS Code, you develop muscle memory for it. At this point, I don’t really care about the differences anymore and I’m happy with VS Code.
    - giancarlostoro 1y ago
      In my case, my employers forbid tools like JetBrains so I am paying out of pocket for tooling I cannot even use most of my day. I rather just invest in making a different tool better, even if that means doing a few PRs here and there.
WD-42 1y ago
Seriously. I really hope this puts an end to the crappy VS Code forks so Zed can start getting the credit it’s due. These ai editors have really sucked all the air out of the room.

giancarlostoro 1y ago

I'm basically sold on Zed, it has everything I have wanted from an editor for years, and that's without the amazing other things that they added that I wasn't even envisioning. For years I've prototyped a few different editors because of frustration with the status quo. There's a lot of work that goes into a good editor, and Zed has definitely done the legwork. I welcome them openly collaborating.

iamkd 1y ago
Zed is awesome, but the absence of side-by-side diffs just drives me crazy, so I'm back to Cursor / VSCode. Turns out I can't work without it. This is the top rated discussion on Github though: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770 https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770
- Aeolun 1y ago
  I’m sure anyone invested enough could contribute that xD Like, I agree that that’s the thing I want most out of Zed right now, but not enough to do it myself.
9dev 1y ago
You can take my IntelliJ IDE out of my cold, dead hands. I don’t understand why anyone would want to miss out on all the automatic inference and interlinked code base, the integrated tooling… Every time I try something like Zed or VS Code, I end up disappointed or install a no longer supported plugin only to learn it falls way short. Yes, Zed's startup time is way better, and it definitely feels snappier. But when I work on code, I need to jump around the code. I want the debugger to show me the current line in the file, annotating the value of every variable right in the source. I want to jump to property usages. I want to automatically rename a function everywhere intelligently, not using search-replace. I want to get completion for my database tables, and browse them from the IDE. And lots more.
- hactually 1y ago
  It's fine, it sounds like you're an enterprise programmer and that suits your role/use case. I use zed with the inbuilt terminal, additional terminals + tools like pgcli and docker. I would feel trapped/impotent using an IDE, esp combined with the lack of snappiness a java app gives you.
  - 9dev 1y ago
    Couldn’t be further from Enterprise luckily, but it leaves me wondering if I’m missing the forest for the trees? Maybe it’s just a difference in working style. I would feel exhausted by having to learn and maintain a bunch of tools instead of just one, sprinkled with occasional anxiety if there is a better or upstart competing tool that I should be using.
    - mvATM99 1y ago
      I don't think youre missing out necessarily. I would riot if i couldn't use Pycharm anymore, for big python projects just nothing beats it right now. I do use VSCode too, but mostly for quick scripting or non-programming projects. and even then i installed a bunch of extensions to make it more like Pycharm.
    - k9294 1y ago
      It’s most likely about different ecosystems. JetBrains provides excellent support for many programming ecosystems, but if yours isn’t supported, you don’t have much choice. I was an avid JetBrains user until I needed to work with Elixir. You simply can’t do Elixir in their IDEs. So I switched to VS Code. After more than a year of using VS Code, you develop muscle memory for it. At this point, I don’t really care about the differences anymore and I’m happy with VS Code.
  - giancarlostoro 1y ago
    In my case, my employers forbid tools like JetBrains so I am paying out of pocket for tooling I cannot even use most of my day. I rather just invest in making a different tool better, even if that means doing a few PRs here and there.

WD-42 1y ago

Seriously. I really hope this puts an end to the crappy VS Code forks so Zed can start getting the credit it’s due. These ai editors have really sucked all the air out of the room.