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I agree. It's lame, difficult to pronounce, and clearly identifies the project as something that only RMS-level uber-nerds would care about. Terrible name.

1gn15 1y ago
Given the current situation on Android, we definitely need more RMS-level uber-nerds!
- Finnucane 1y ago
  Well, maybe not entirely rms-level.
- IshKebab 1y ago
  Definitely not. RMS-level uber-nerds are easy to dismiss because they have genuinely crazy views, and also because they tend to be super weird people. We may agree with RMS that we should be free to own our computers and run whatever we want on them. But he says that commercial software should not exist. That's clearly insane, which makes it easy to dismiss everything he says as insane, even if a lot of it isn't. Similarly, the man himself is extremely weird and creepy. It's easy to dismiss him on those grounds too even if they don't directly relate to tech things. What we definitely need is more normal people with normal view that support normal software freedoms without going to crazy extremes.
kwanbix 1y ago
Well, it is difficult to pronounce if you don't speak spanish, portuguese, italian, and probably others. For me, as native Spanish speaker is super easy to say.
- IshKebab 1y ago
  The difficulty is that it doesn't follow unambiguous English pronunciation heuristics. For example, I have no problem pronouncing "ender" because it has no elements that have unambiguous pronunciation. I also have no problem pronouncing "centre", because it's a well known word with well known pronunciation. But libre is not an existing English word, and "-bre" does not have an unambiguous pronunciation heuristics, so it's unclear how it is intended to be pronounced. Not an issue in Spanish because it is (apparently) a word in Spanish. Another example of a bad naming is Forgejo. Terrible. I'm sure it has very clear pronunciation if you speak Esperanto.

1gn15 1y ago

Given the current situation on Android, we definitely need more RMS-level uber-nerds!

Finnucane 1y ago
Well, maybe not entirely rms-level.
IshKebab 1y ago
Definitely not. RMS-level uber-nerds are easy to dismiss because they have genuinely crazy views, and also because they tend to be super weird people. We may agree with RMS that we should be free to own our computers and run whatever we want on them. But he says that commercial software should not exist. That's clearly insane, which makes it easy to dismiss everything he says as insane, even if a lot of it isn't. Similarly, the man himself is extremely weird and creepy. It's easy to dismiss him on those grounds too even if they don't directly relate to tech things. What we definitely need is more normal people with normal view that support normal software freedoms without going to crazy extremes.

kwanbix 1y ago

Well, it is difficult to pronounce if you don't speak spanish, portuguese, italian, and probably others. For me, as native Spanish speaker is super easy to say.

IshKebab 1y ago
The difficulty is that it doesn't follow unambiguous English pronunciation heuristics. For example, I have no problem pronouncing "ender" because it has no elements that have unambiguous pronunciation. I also have no problem pronouncing "centre", because it's a well known word with well known pronunciation. But libre is not an existing English word, and "-bre" does not have an unambiguous pronunciation heuristics, so it's unclear how it is intended to be pronounced. Not an issue in Spanish because it is (apparently) a word in Spanish. Another example of a bad naming is Forgejo. Terrible. I'm sure it has very clear pronunciation if you speak Esperanto.