> These examples don't prove your point though, so they were easily countered. I guess I missed the part where you "countered" them. Saying "that's not true" i

> These examples don't prove your point though, so they were easily countered. I guess I missed the part where you "countered" them. Saying "that's not true" is not an argument. > You even gave up the point when admit Obama's tariffs were "nothing as sweeping or rushed as what is going on now". I didn't "give up the point" -- I can admit when something is different in scale while still nothing the fundamental shift in historical stance. Some more examples for you: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/china-tariffs-biden-trump https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/china-tariffs-biden-... https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/business/energy-environment/us-slaps-tariffs-on-chinese-solar-panels.html https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/business/energy-environme... https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-steel-dumping-20140712-story.html https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-steel-dumping-2014071... https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/12/fact-sheet-obama-administrations-record-trade-enforcement https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2017/0...