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Postal services (including the one I'm in) are going with the $100 gift limit, not the previous $800 de minimus.

by MandieD 1y ago

timr 1y ago
If so, they're wrong.
- fzeroracer 1y ago
  If you're saying post offices around the world are wrong, it might be time to reevaluate your own statement for truthiness. There's multiple countries that are now suspending shipments over $100 to the US. So either there is a huge fuckup in communications from the US to every other country or there's a fuckup in the process itself.
  - timr 1y ago
    > If you're saying post offices around the world are wrong, it might be time to reevaluate your own statement for truthiness. ...or you could read the actual changes? Accusing people of lying is not cool when you clearly haven't even read the source material. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/suspending-duty-free-de-minimis-treatment-for-all-countries/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/susp... Here's a summary by a law firm: https://www.whitecase.com/insight-alert/united-states-suspend-customs-de-minimis-entry-most-shipments-august-29-2025 https://www.whitecase.com/insight-alert/united-states-suspen... Specifically: > The executive order declares that “[t]he duty-free de minimis exemption provided under 19 U.S.C. § 1321(a)(2)(C) shall no longer apply to any shipment of articles not covered by 50 U.S.C. § 1702(b) [enumerating narrow exceptions, such as for donations, informational materials and transactions ordinarily incident to travel] regardless of value, country of origin, mode of transportation, or method of entry.” 50 USC 1702(b)(4) lays it out explicitly: > (4) any transactions ordinarily incident to travel to or from any country, including importation of accompanied baggage for personal use, maintenance within any country including payment of living expenses and acquisition of goods or services for personal use, and arrangement or facilitation of such travel including nonscheduled air, sea, or land voyages. You don't need to go into this much detail, of course -- you could just Google it or ask an LLM -- Google's AI summary currently returns the correct answer. https://www.google.com/search?q=does+trump+de+minimis+tariff+changes+affect+personal+goods+travel https://www.google.com/search?q=does+trump+de+minimis+tariff...
    - fzeroracer 1y ago
      So again, to be clear: You're saying multiple post offices around the world are wrong? Are they acting in unison? Is this a conspiracy against Trump? Explain to me your process here. The EO doesn't mean shit as much as how things are enforced.
      - timr 1y ago
        > So again, to be clear: You're saying multiple post offices around the world are wrong? Are they acting in unison? Well, I don't keep track of what post offices around the world are doing, but if they're not following the rules that I just showed you, then yeah, they're wrong. It wouldn't be the first time that bureaucratic organizations get things wrong. > The EO doesn't mean shit as much as how things are enforced. You really need to step back from the keyboard.
        Symbiote 1y ago
        You were writing about Japan's $100 limit yesterday. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017265 > I'd suggest something like: "Japan Post stops accepting US shipments over $100."
        timr 1y ago
        I'm not sure what your point is? What Japan does or does not do has no bearing on the laws, which I just showed you.
        gpvos 1y ago
        I doubt you can interpret the rules better than the combined postal services of Europe and their legal departments, and so should you.
    - Symbiote 1y ago
      https://www.postnord.dk/nye-toldregler-i-usa/ https://www.postnord.dk/nye-toldregler-i-usa/ > Som privatperson kan du fortsat toldfrit sende gaver med en maksimal værdi á $100 You can see the number and read the obvious words, it's not even necessary to translate it
- MandieD 1y ago
  None of them wants to have a whole bunch of consumer/small business shipments stuck in US customs for who knows how long it will take for the US to figure out exactly what tariffs it wishes to charge and how exactly it plans to collect them, so are leaving it to the higher-priced experts like DHL (who will only do it if you’re willing to pay for their Express service, not their Standard parcel service from Germany), UPS, or FedEx. I doubt they’re conspiring to leave money on the table just to make Trump look bad.

Postal services (including the one I'm in) are going with the $100 gift limit, not the previous $800 de minimus.

timr 1y ago

If so, they're wrong.

fzeroracer 1y ago
If you're saying post offices around the world are wrong, it might be time to reevaluate your own statement for truthiness. There's multiple countries that are now suspending shipments over $100 to the US. So either there is a huge fuckup in communications from the US to every other country or there's a fuckup in the process itself.
- timr 1y ago
  > If you're saying post offices around the world are wrong, it might be time to reevaluate your own statement for truthiness. ...or you could read the actual changes? Accusing people of lying is not cool when you clearly haven't even read the source material. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/suspending-duty-free-de-minimis-treatment-for-all-countries/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/susp... Here's a summary by a law firm: https://www.whitecase.com/insight-alert/united-states-suspend-customs-de-minimis-entry-most-shipments-august-29-2025 https://www.whitecase.com/insight-alert/united-states-suspen... Specifically: > The executive order declares that “[t]he duty-free de minimis exemption provided under 19 U.S.C. § 1321(a)(2)(C) shall no longer apply to any shipment of articles not covered by 50 U.S.C. § 1702(b) [enumerating narrow exceptions, such as for donations, informational materials and transactions ordinarily incident to travel] regardless of value, country of origin, mode of transportation, or method of entry.” 50 USC 1702(b)(4) lays it out explicitly: > (4) any transactions ordinarily incident to travel to or from any country, including importation of accompanied baggage for personal use, maintenance within any country including payment of living expenses and acquisition of goods or services for personal use, and arrangement or facilitation of such travel including nonscheduled air, sea, or land voyages. You don't need to go into this much detail, of course -- you could just Google it or ask an LLM -- Google's AI summary currently returns the correct answer. https://www.google.com/search?q=does+trump+de+minimis+tariff+changes+affect+personal+goods+travel https://www.google.com/search?q=does+trump+de+minimis+tariff...
  - fzeroracer 1y ago
    So again, to be clear: You're saying multiple post offices around the world are wrong? Are they acting in unison? Is this a conspiracy against Trump? Explain to me your process here. The EO doesn't mean shit as much as how things are enforced.
    - timr 1y ago
      > So again, to be clear: You're saying multiple post offices around the world are wrong? Are they acting in unison? Well, I don't keep track of what post offices around the world are doing, but if they're not following the rules that I just showed you, then yeah, they're wrong. It wouldn't be the first time that bureaucratic organizations get things wrong. > The EO doesn't mean shit as much as how things are enforced. You really need to step back from the keyboard.
      - Symbiote 1y ago
        You were writing about Japan's $100 limit yesterday. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45017265 > I'd suggest something like: "Japan Post stops accepting US shipments over $100."
        timr 1y ago
        I'm not sure what your point is? What Japan does or does not do has no bearing on the laws, which I just showed you.
      - gpvos 1y ago
        I doubt you can interpret the rules better than the combined postal services of Europe and their legal departments, and so should you.
  - Symbiote 1y ago
    https://www.postnord.dk/nye-toldregler-i-usa/ https://www.postnord.dk/nye-toldregler-i-usa/ > Som privatperson kan du fortsat toldfrit sende gaver med en maksimal værdi á $100 You can see the number and read the obvious words, it's not even necessary to translate it
MandieD 1y ago
None of them wants to have a whole bunch of consumer/small business shipments stuck in US customs for who knows how long it will take for the US to figure out exactly what tariffs it wishes to charge and how exactly it plans to collect them, so are leaving it to the higher-priced experts like DHL (who will only do it if you’re willing to pay for their Express service, not their Standard parcel service from Germany), UPS, or FedEx. I doubt they’re conspiring to leave money on the table just to make Trump look bad.