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This is insane, wtf have you Trump voters done.

colinbartlett 1y ago
Sorry, but this does not place enough blame on those that didn't vote (about 90 million people). I will hold responsible anyone with a heartbeat who did not vote at all in 2024.
- jordanpg 1y ago
  But Kamala Harris was not perfect in every respect. In fact, she had several policy preferences that don't align perfectly with my own. In a lot of ways, she was just like Trump. Also, she was not a very good public speaker. /s
  - max51 1y ago
    When she tried to run in the primary in 2020, she was last place and considered a joke candidate. If even the Democrats don't like her, do you expect republicans to be charmed by her and switch sides?
    - kagakuninja 1y ago
      We hoped that the party of law and order, of Christian morality would not re-elect a convicted rapist, convicted financial fraudster, serial adulterer, pathelogical liar and instigator of America's first coup attempt. Even Liz Cheney was supporting Harris. This wasn't about "charm", it was about saving democracy. And now we are fucked...
    - 8note 1y ago
      she did get a whole ton of votes from people that didnt want trump in again.
      - phendrenad2 1y ago
        Ah but how many of them were protest votes because they didn't think Trump went far enough?
    - int_19h 1y ago
      Against Trump second term? Absolutely, it shouldn't even have been a contest for anyone with a modicum of common sense.
- Terr_ 1y ago
  Lately I've noticed a social trend, where whomever you critique for The Current Mess, someone else is afraid that indirectly lifts justified blame from another group. Maybe that just reflects how we humans have limited capacity for attention and outrage, and there's too much to fix at once. For example, the split between: 1. The willfully-culpable Republican party. 2. The inept/uninspiring Democratic party. 3. The lazy/clueless non-voters. I'm not sure how to solve that problem... maybe arguing over prioritization is necessary. ________ P.S.: For something more-actionable, how about this: Many problems exist, individual humans aren't built to consider them all simultaneously and coequally, be kind to well-meaning allies that are focusing on a particular piece.
TechnicolorByte 1y ago
Plenty of them here before the election. Wish they’d speak up more now and explain how any of these policies are objectively good for the US economy and US citizens.
- sirbutters 1y ago
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  - chrisco255 1y ago
    Oh the blue collar and union workers that voted for this are getting exactly what they wanted and know better than you about the consequences. When they get a pay raise because their job and whole town aren't being gutted to globalization they are clearly playing 4D chess.
    - sitkack 1y ago
      Blue collar jobs are going to evaporate as the supply chain gets wedged. This like trying to lose weight by burning down the farms with napalm.
    - wvenable 1y ago
      They're already losing their jobs so this unjustified fantasy has already been destroyed by reality. There are no good economic indicators for the US right now.
    - EasyMark 1y ago
      you think this is going to bring back factories and blue collar jobs? oof
- metalliqaz 1y ago
  it's got nothing to do with policies, it's tribal
- chrisco255 1y ago
  Quite simply: de minimis import rules make no sense, they are inevitably abused by China in particular to import billions in untaxed goods. No foreign country has a right to sell things in America. China and EU and others impose their own arbitrary redtrictions and taxes on imports but for some reason if America does it, it gets worldwide press because for the longest time, it was just open season as we drained out manufacturing and gutted the base that built America in the first place. We have laws on the books and they have to be enforced equally, whether you're shipping in entire containers or thousands of small direct mail packages.

Sorry, but this does not place enough blame on those that didn't vote (about 90 million people). I will hold responsible anyone with a heartbeat who did not vote at all in 2024.

jordanpg 1y ago
But Kamala Harris was not perfect in every respect. In fact, she had several policy preferences that don't align perfectly with my own. In a lot of ways, she was just like Trump. Also, she was not a very good public speaker. /s
- max51 1y ago
  When she tried to run in the primary in 2020, she was last place and considered a joke candidate. If even the Democrats don't like her, do you expect republicans to be charmed by her and switch sides?
  - kagakuninja 1y ago
    We hoped that the party of law and order, of Christian morality would not re-elect a convicted rapist, convicted financial fraudster, serial adulterer, pathelogical liar and instigator of America's first coup attempt. Even Liz Cheney was supporting Harris. This wasn't about "charm", it was about saving democracy. And now we are fucked...
  - 8note 1y ago
    she did get a whole ton of votes from people that didnt want trump in again.
    - phendrenad2 1y ago
      Ah but how many of them were protest votes because they didn't think Trump went far enough?
  - int_19h 1y ago
    Against Trump second term? Absolutely, it shouldn't even have been a contest for anyone with a modicum of common sense.
Terr_ 1y ago
Lately I've noticed a social trend, where whomever you critique for The Current Mess, someone else is afraid that indirectly lifts justified blame from another group. Maybe that just reflects how we humans have limited capacity for attention and outrage, and there's too much to fix at once. For example, the split between: 1. The willfully-culpable Republican party. 2. The inept/uninspiring Democratic party. 3. The lazy/clueless non-voters. I'm not sure how to solve that problem... maybe arguing over prioritization is necessary. ________ P.S.: For something more-actionable, how about this: Many problems exist, individual humans aren't built to consider them all simultaneously and coequally, be kind to well-meaning allies that are focusing on a particular piece.

TechnicolorByte 1y ago

Plenty of them here before the election. Wish they’d speak up more now and explain how any of these policies are objectively good for the US economy and US citizens.

sirbutters 1y ago
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- chrisco255 1y ago
  Oh the blue collar and union workers that voted for this are getting exactly what they wanted and know better than you about the consequences. When they get a pay raise because their job and whole town aren't being gutted to globalization they are clearly playing 4D chess.
  - sitkack 1y ago
    Blue collar jobs are going to evaporate as the supply chain gets wedged. This like trying to lose weight by burning down the farms with napalm.
  - wvenable 1y ago
    They're already losing their jobs so this unjustified fantasy has already been destroyed by reality. There are no good economic indicators for the US right now.
  - EasyMark 1y ago
    you think this is going to bring back factories and blue collar jobs? oof
metalliqaz 1y ago
it's got nothing to do with policies, it's tribal
chrisco255 1y ago
Quite simply: de minimis import rules make no sense, they are inevitably abused by China in particular to import billions in untaxed goods. No foreign country has a right to sell things in America. China and EU and others impose their own arbitrary redtrictions and taxes on imports but for some reason if America does it, it gets worldwide press because for the longest time, it was just open season as we drained out manufacturing and gutted the base that built America in the first place. We have laws on the books and they have to be enforced equally, whether you're shipping in entire containers or thousands of small direct mail packages.