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A grey shirt is a desaturated shirt. You cannot resaturate grey. I think if you buy a tie-dye shirt or phone case and it comes out half grey, despite it being

A grey shirt is a desaturated shirt. You cannot resaturate grey. I think if you buy a tie-dye shirt or phone case and it comes out half grey, despite it being a valid color, most folks will be disappointed.

Dylan16807 1y ago
> A grey shirt is a desaturated shirt. You cannot resaturate grey. Aren't these in direct conflict? If you can't resaturate it, that implies it's not desaturated. > I think if you buy a tie-dye shirt or phone case and it comes out half grey, despite it being a valid color, most folks will be disappointed. And if you buy a forest motif, people will be upset if it's pink. That's just doing a tie-dye wrong, not a rebuke of whether it's a color at all.
- itishappy 1y ago
  > Aren't these in direct conflict? If you can't resaturate it, that implies it's not desaturated. Kinda. There's a singularity in the math. The problem is that hue is defined as an angle and saturation is defined as distance from the center, but there's no consistent way to define a direction for the origin. Black and white have the same problem because they're also desaturated. > And if you buy a forest motif, people will be upset if it's pink. That's just doing a tie-dye wrong, not a rebuke of whether it's a color at all. I'm not arguing that it's not a color, just that it doesn't belong in all gradients!
  - Dylan16807 1y ago
    Of course it doesn't belong in all gradients. It would only be in gradients that go from near-opposite colors. Or if you mean pure gray it would only be in gradients between exact opposite colors, and there are no good options for such a gradient.
    - itishappy 1y ago
      I mention tie-dye because it feels like a quintessential example of a color gradient. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for a blue and orange tie-dye shirt and perfectly reasonable to not want grey colors simply because they're on opposite sides. I could see white in between, I could even see black, or I could see purple and red or cyan and yellow. I don't think there's a universally right answer here!
      - Dylan16807 1y ago
        Someone asking for those colors doesn't actually want a gradient with two anchor points. So yes there are many answers but because it's not a quintessential example of a gradient.
        itishappy 1y ago
        > Someone asking for those colors doesn't actually want a gradient with two anchor points. I thought the same until I googled "blue and orange tie-dye." I'll be honest, more white and black than I expected! > So yes there are many answers but because it's not a quintessential example of a gradient. We may have to agree to disagree that tie-dye isn't a quintessential example of a gradient. Would you argue that rainbows aren't either?
        Dylan16807 1y ago
        > I thought the same until I googled "blue and orange tie-dye." I'll be honest, more white and black than I expected! Putting white or black in between adds another anchor point. And looking more around examples of blue and orange tie dye, most aren't really gradients overall, they have big splotches of solid color with small gaps or overlaps in between, and at least half the time the gaps and overlaps don't even have a gradient inside them. > We may have to agree to disagree that tie-dye isn't a quintessential example of a gradient. Would you argue that rainbows aren't either? Hmm. How about this. I would say a rainbow is not a gradient between two colors, and the color space discussion is about a gradient between two colors. The exact border of "quintessential" is not something I really want to spend too much time on.

Dylan16807 1y ago

> A grey shirt is a desaturated shirt. You cannot resaturate grey. Aren't these in direct conflict? If you can't resaturate it, that implies it's not desaturated. > I think if you buy a tie-dye shirt or phone case and it comes out half grey, despite it being a valid color, most folks will be disappointed. And if you buy a forest motif, people will be upset if it's pink. That's just doing a tie-dye wrong, not a rebuke of whether it's a color at all.

itishappy 1y ago
> Aren't these in direct conflict? If you can't resaturate it, that implies it's not desaturated. Kinda. There's a singularity in the math. The problem is that hue is defined as an angle and saturation is defined as distance from the center, but there's no consistent way to define a direction for the origin. Black and white have the same problem because they're also desaturated. > And if you buy a forest motif, people will be upset if it's pink. That's just doing a tie-dye wrong, not a rebuke of whether it's a color at all. I'm not arguing that it's not a color, just that it doesn't belong in all gradients!
- Dylan16807 1y ago
  Of course it doesn't belong in all gradients. It would only be in gradients that go from near-opposite colors. Or if you mean pure gray it would only be in gradients between exact opposite colors, and there are no good options for such a gradient.
  - itishappy 1y ago
    I mention tie-dye because it feels like a quintessential example of a color gradient. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for a blue and orange tie-dye shirt and perfectly reasonable to not want grey colors simply because they're on opposite sides. I could see white in between, I could even see black, or I could see purple and red or cyan and yellow. I don't think there's a universally right answer here!
    - Dylan16807 1y ago
      Someone asking for those colors doesn't actually want a gradient with two anchor points. So yes there are many answers but because it's not a quintessential example of a gradient.
      - itishappy 1y ago
        > Someone asking for those colors doesn't actually want a gradient with two anchor points. I thought the same until I googled "blue and orange tie-dye." I'll be honest, more white and black than I expected! > So yes there are many answers but because it's not a quintessential example of a gradient. We may have to agree to disagree that tie-dye isn't a quintessential example of a gradient. Would you argue that rainbows aren't either?
        Dylan16807 1y ago
        > I thought the same until I googled "blue and orange tie-dye." I'll be honest, more white and black than I expected! Putting white or black in between adds another anchor point. And looking more around examples of blue and orange tie dye, most aren't really gradients overall, they have big splotches of solid color with small gaps or overlaps in between, and at least half the time the gaps and overlaps don't even have a gradient inside them. > We may have to agree to disagree that tie-dye isn't a quintessential example of a gradient. Would you argue that rainbows aren't either? Hmm. How about this. I would say a rainbow is not a gradient between two colors, and the color space discussion is about a gradient between two colors. The exact border of "quintessential" is not something I really want to spend too much time on.