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At this point, the stuff I'd want to remove: - auto-dubbing - auto-translation - shorts (they're fine in a separate space, just not in the timeline) - membe

At this point, the stuff I'd want to remove: - auto-dubbing - auto-translation - shorts (they're fine in a separate space, just not in the timeline) - member only streams (if I'm not a member, which is 100% of them) The only viable interface for that is the web and plenty of browser extensions.

chii 1y ago
> The only viable interface for that is the web and plenty of browser extensions. there are ways to get this same experience with android. Use https://github.com/ReVanced/ https://github.com/ReVanced/ and make your phone work for you instead of working for someone else.
- reddalo 1y ago
  ReVanced also has the additional benefit of blocking ads, allowing background play and auto-skipping sponsorships thanks to SponsorBlock. Also, if you have an Android TV, I'd suggest SmartTube, it's way better than the original app and it has the same benefits of ReVanced: https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube
- machomaster 1y ago
  Doesn't help against autodubbing and autotranslation.
wolrah 1y ago
> - shorts (they're fine in a separate space, just not in the timeline) No they're not. Nothing that mandates vertical video has ever been fine nor ever will be. Tiktok, Reels, Shorts, all bad and should be destroyed. Unless the action is primarily vertical, which is rarely ever the case, it's always been and always will be wrong. Yes I will die on this hill. Videos that are worse to watch on everything but a phone and have bad framing for most content are objectively bad. There is nothing wrong with the concept of short videos of course, but this "built for phones, sucks for everything else" trash needs to go away.
- infecto 1y ago
  You might be dead on that hill then. That ship has sailed long ago. Short format is mostly consumed on phones in vertical. Long form is still standard widths.
- dingaling 1y ago
  Have you ever encountered portrait photos? They're orientated vertically because the human form, either head, bust or full body, fits better and excludes distractions. Vertical videos, if they're focused on a human, work fine for the same reason.
  - smitelli 1y ago
    I'd be interested in seeing an example of a well-composed 9:16 portrait photo. All the ones I have found look awkward.
    - HankStallone 1y ago
      Yeah, portrait photos aren't as narrow as that. I just measured some of mine, and they're 5x7, 8x10, and 11x16. By comparison, 9x16 feels claustrophobic. I suspect that a still image is also different from video because, without motion, there's no feeling that if the person might move a few inches to one side and go out of frame.
- count 1y ago
  “Everything but a phone” is a tiny tiny percentage of the devices used to consume content on YouTube. It’s not just mobile first, it’s basically only mobile…
master-lincoln 1y ago
SmartTube for Android TV can do that

chii 1y ago

> The only viable interface for that is the web and plenty of browser extensions. there are ways to get this same experience with android. Use https://github.com/ReVanced/ https://github.com/ReVanced/ and make your phone work for you instead of working for someone else.

reddalo 1y ago
ReVanced also has the additional benefit of blocking ads, allowing background play and auto-skipping sponsorships thanks to SponsorBlock. Also, if you have an Android TV, I'd suggest SmartTube, it's way better than the original app and it has the same benefits of ReVanced: https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube
machomaster 1y ago
Doesn't help against autodubbing and autotranslation.

wolrah 1y ago

> - shorts (they're fine in a separate space, just not in the timeline) No they're not. Nothing that mandates vertical video has ever been fine nor ever will be. Tiktok, Reels, Shorts, all bad and should be destroyed. Unless the action is primarily vertical, which is rarely ever the case, it's always been and always will be wrong. Yes I will die on this hill. Videos that are worse to watch on everything but a phone and have bad framing for most content are objectively bad. There is nothing wrong with the concept of short videos of course, but this "built for phones, sucks for everything else" trash needs to go away.

infecto 1y ago
You might be dead on that hill then. That ship has sailed long ago. Short format is mostly consumed on phones in vertical. Long form is still standard widths.
dingaling 1y ago
Have you ever encountered portrait photos? They're orientated vertically because the human form, either head, bust or full body, fits better and excludes distractions. Vertical videos, if they're focused on a human, work fine for the same reason.
- smitelli 1y ago
  I'd be interested in seeing an example of a well-composed 9:16 portrait photo. All the ones I have found look awkward.
  - HankStallone 1y ago
    Yeah, portrait photos aren't as narrow as that. I just measured some of mine, and they're 5x7, 8x10, and 11x16. By comparison, 9x16 feels claustrophobic. I suspect that a still image is also different from video because, without motion, there's no feeling that if the person might move a few inches to one side and go out of frame.
count 1y ago
“Everything but a phone” is a tiny tiny percentage of the devices used to consume content on YouTube. It’s not just mobile first, it’s basically only mobile…

master-lincoln 1y ago

SmartTube for Android TV can do that