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If you are using GoDaddy for anything, you deserve what you get. If you are using GoDaddy for not just registration but also for DNS, I would just fix it as soo

If you are using GoDaddy for anything, you deserve what you get. If you are using GoDaddy for not just registration but also for DNS, I would just fix it as soon as possible and not tell anyone. Also, do backups, use good password practices, and everything else that everyone knows and the lazy will still fail to do. Oh, 20 seconds in and a downvote. I can take them, I didn't ignore the last 8 problems GoDaddy has been responsible for lately and am not hurting from this outage.

larrys 14y ago
"Oh, 20 seconds in and a downvote." I didn't downvote you. But you might have gotten downvoted because you said "If you are using GoDaddy for anything, you deserve what you get." w/o giving links or further information. The things you are thinking might not be obvious to everyone.
- freehunter 14y ago
  GoDaddy might not have been in the news for a few months, but their issues are well documented. If I had been the one to post I would have added links like you suggested, but when choosing someone to do business with it's prudent to find out if they're a shady company. A Google search will present their issues right up front. Citing sources for your opinion is good practice, I agree, but so is independent due diligence.
- terrapinbear 14y ago
  Except that everyone doesn't use HN. The people that registered their domains with GoDaddy generally don't frequent HN. Informative decisions about domain registration is basically preaching to the choir here on HN. OP's comment is perfect given the context. Had this been CNN or someother popular news outlet, then the OP would have been "snarky"
- crisnoble 14y ago
  Anyone this far into the chain might be interested in the following links: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/31/bob-parsons-godaddy-ceo-elephant-hunt_n_843121.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/31/bob-parsons-godaddy... http://gizmodo.com/5870559/as-if-you-needed-another-reason-to-hate-fcking-godaddy?tag=sopa http://gizmodo.com/5870559/as-if-you-needed-another-reason-t... http://www.salmanahsan.com/godaddy-sucks/ http://www.salmanahsan.com/godaddy-sucks/ http://www.oooff.com/blacklist/why-godaddy-sucks.php http://www.oooff.com/blacklist/why-godaddy-sucks.php http://www.simpleproductivityblog.com/why-i-left-godaddy/ http://www.simpleproductivityblog.com/why-i-left-godaddy/ From what I gather you should take your money elsewhere because: (1) they love SOPA (even though they redacted their support) (2) they have awful customer service and seedy sell tactics (3) have ads which are sexist and (4) have a CEO who likes hunting elephants. If those don't bother you then you can now add have DNS servers go down for significant portions of time. Even wikipedia ditched GoDaddy several months ago.
  - Dylan16807 14y ago
    And none of those are service problems. They don't support the initial post.
klausjensen 14y ago
You are right. I deserved it, and I feel ashamed... I will move the domains I have there away tomorrow.
Cushman 14y ago
Millions of normal not-too-savvy folks use GoDaddy because to them it's synonymous with domain registration. They profoundly do not deserve their sites to be down for that. For shame.
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  I'm not trying to be a jerk, but anyone would say the same thing if I complained about QoS on one of those hugely over-sold shared PHP hosting sites. Are there really a lot of "not-too-savvy" folks who understand that they need GoDaddy to provide them DNS servers but know better than to use someone else for DNS services and/or registration? Maybe I underestimate the size of that population. I should and do apologize... I'm getting a lot of flak for my tone. No one deserves for their sites to be down, but I have no sympathy for HN readers who experience downtime. This issue has been discussed to death too many times for it to be an honest surprise to anyone here.
  - j_s 14y ago
    'you deserve what you get' didn't go over very well, but was all the snark I found that could be judged unreasonable. Edit: also, there is a great deal of inertia to overcome for a registar change, so a bit of shove (instead of gentle encouragement) may be warranted.
    - drivebyacct2 14y ago
      No, you're right. It was off the cuff and non-specific and honestly, motivated by a frustration of GoDaddy more than of people here (though I do still hope that they consider this the last straw and move if they haven't already). I just think that someone who's as much a behemoth as GoDaddy could get their shit together and offer a decent quality of service and a tiny ounce of transparency. I'm a bit upset because this subthread is so vitriolic as a result of my tone and I am sorry for that.
      - MartinCron 14y ago
        I'm a bit upset because this subthread is so vitriolic as a result of my tone and I am sorry for that What a classy bit of self-reflection. Keep up the good work :)
qeorge 14y ago
This is an example of comments that are hurting HN's quality. Absolutely nothing useful to add to the discussion, just snark. Yet for some reason its the highest voted comment.
- TomGullen 14y ago
  I think it's a collective release of pent up frustration over GoDaddy's operations, ethics and politics.
  - unreal37 14y ago
    Pent up? People have been hating on GoDaddy for years. Nothing is pent up.
    - stanleydrew 14y ago
      Well GoDaddy isn't going away. Things get pent up and then let out periodically as long as there's something to be frustrated with.
- rhizome 14y ago
  It appears to be taboo to criticize any business in general terms within a capitalist society, but GD is a bad actor within the industry. You're attempting to marginalize GP's comment as "snark," but I'm not seeing it.
  - mattacular 14y ago
    Here I'll help you find the snark: start by reading the first sentence.
    - jlgreco 14y ago
      The irony here is just sickening.
      - 14y ago
igorgue 14y ago
Since GoDaddy is down I had to go to the comments page to see what's going on. Just to find this asshole. Hacker News used to be cool.
- terrapinbear 14y ago
  Too bad you were never cool
terrapinbear 14y ago
GoDaddy struck me as smarmy. Good on Anon.
- mediacrisis 14y ago
  Anon is not taking credit for this one. ETA: Source- http://storify.com/poe/anonymous-lulz-and-godaddy http://storify.com/poe/anonymous-lulz-and-godaddy
cwb71 14y ago
For all the people recommending “use this thing instead, dummy!”: can you share evidence which supports the claim that your thing is less susceptible to a denial of service attack than GoDaddy’s? Because it seems like there are a lot of suggestions to move to alternate services that are in almost every case more expensive, but may or may not be any more reliable. It is well known that there are entities in control of botnets large enough to DDoS just about anything for some period of time.
- samt 14y ago
  It's a bit like choosing your local credit union instead of BofA. Go Daddy is too big to fail but there is no Federal Reserve backing them up.
Cerin 14y ago
You are a horrible person.
kposehn 14y ago
Ok, snark aside, I think you would have contributed better if you rephrased this: > If you are using GoDaddy for anything, you deserve what you get. If you are using GoDaddy for not just registration but also for DNS, I would just fix it as soon as possible and not tell anyone. ...to something like this: "GoDaddy has a history of not only being bad with customer support, but also being the target for many politically motivated attacks for business practices which are not forthright or above-board. If you use them for registration and DNS, you are likely to get burned, so I suggest moving to another provider in short order once this clears up." You could do a lot to benefit people without the vitriol, snark and associated venom.
billirvine 14y ago
Thousands of mid-sized to small business, run by people too busy to read hacker news or other sources of geekery, have no idea why they should consider not using GoDaddy. A response like this is part of the problem, and not even close to being a solution or advice.
- ApsoFacto 14y ago
  Spot on, Bill. My experiences with GD have been nothing but stellar... for the last ten years!
  - ceejayoz 14y ago
    How on earth did you manage to avoid My Account for 10 years?
tubbo 14y ago
We are only using GoDaddy for email at this point. Hopefully, my bosses will see this as a final reason to move to Google Apps...

larrys 14y ago

"Oh, 20 seconds in and a downvote." I didn't downvote you. But you might have gotten downvoted because you said "If you are using GoDaddy for anything, you deserve what you get." w/o giving links or further information. The things you are thinking might not be obvious to everyone.

freehunter 14y ago
GoDaddy might not have been in the news for a few months, but their issues are well documented. If I had been the one to post I would have added links like you suggested, but when choosing someone to do business with it's prudent to find out if they're a shady company. A Google search will present their issues right up front. Citing sources for your opinion is good practice, I agree, but so is independent due diligence.
terrapinbear 14y ago
Except that everyone doesn't use HN. The people that registered their domains with GoDaddy generally don't frequent HN. Informative decisions about domain registration is basically preaching to the choir here on HN. OP's comment is perfect given the context. Had this been CNN or someother popular news outlet, then the OP would have been "snarky"
crisnoble 14y ago
Anyone this far into the chain might be interested in the following links: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/31/bob-parsons-godaddy-ceo-elephant-hunt_n_843121.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/31/bob-parsons-godaddy... http://gizmodo.com/5870559/as-if-you-needed-another-reason-to-hate-fcking-godaddy?tag=sopa http://gizmodo.com/5870559/as-if-you-needed-another-reason-t... http://www.salmanahsan.com/godaddy-sucks/ http://www.salmanahsan.com/godaddy-sucks/ http://www.oooff.com/blacklist/why-godaddy-sucks.php http://www.oooff.com/blacklist/why-godaddy-sucks.php http://www.simpleproductivityblog.com/why-i-left-godaddy/ http://www.simpleproductivityblog.com/why-i-left-godaddy/ From what I gather you should take your money elsewhere because: (1) they love SOPA (even though they redacted their support) (2) they have awful customer service and seedy sell tactics (3) have ads which are sexist and (4) have a CEO who likes hunting elephants. If those don't bother you then you can now add have DNS servers go down for significant portions of time. Even wikipedia ditched GoDaddy several months ago.
- Dylan16807 14y ago
  And none of those are service problems. They don't support the initial post.

klausjensen 14y ago

You are right. I deserved it, and I feel ashamed... I will move the domains I have there away tomorrow.

Cushman 14y ago

Millions of normal not-too-savvy folks use GoDaddy because to them it's synonymous with domain registration. They profoundly do not deserve their sites to be down for that. For shame.

drivebyacct2 14y ago
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but anyone would say the same thing if I complained about QoS on one of those hugely over-sold shared PHP hosting sites. Are there really a lot of "not-too-savvy" folks who understand that they need GoDaddy to provide them DNS servers but know better than to use someone else for DNS services and/or registration? Maybe I underestimate the size of that population. I should and do apologize... I'm getting a lot of flak for my tone. No one deserves for their sites to be down, but I have no sympathy for HN readers who experience downtime. This issue has been discussed to death too many times for it to be an honest surprise to anyone here.
- j_s 14y ago
  'you deserve what you get' didn't go over very well, but was all the snark I found that could be judged unreasonable. Edit: also, there is a great deal of inertia to overcome for a registar change, so a bit of shove (instead of gentle encouragement) may be warranted.
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    No, you're right. It was off the cuff and non-specific and honestly, motivated by a frustration of GoDaddy more than of people here (though I do still hope that they consider this the last straw and move if they haven't already). I just think that someone who's as much a behemoth as GoDaddy could get their shit together and offer a decent quality of service and a tiny ounce of transparency. I'm a bit upset because this subthread is so vitriolic as a result of my tone and I am sorry for that.
    - MartinCron 14y ago
      I'm a bit upset because this subthread is so vitriolic as a result of my tone and I am sorry for that What a classy bit of self-reflection. Keep up the good work :)

qeorge 14y ago

This is an example of comments that are hurting HN's quality. Absolutely nothing useful to add to the discussion, just snark. Yet for some reason its the highest voted comment.

TomGullen 14y ago
I think it's a collective release of pent up frustration over GoDaddy's operations, ethics and politics.
- unreal37 14y ago
  Pent up? People have been hating on GoDaddy for years. Nothing is pent up.
  - stanleydrew 14y ago
    Well GoDaddy isn't going away. Things get pent up and then let out periodically as long as there's something to be frustrated with.
rhizome 14y ago
It appears to be taboo to criticize any business in general terms within a capitalist society, but GD is a bad actor within the industry. You're attempting to marginalize GP's comment as "snark," but I'm not seeing it.
- mattacular 14y ago
  Here I'll help you find the snark: start by reading the first sentence.
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    The irony here is just sickening.
    - 14y ago

igorgue 14y ago

Since GoDaddy is down I had to go to the comments page to see what's going on. Just to find this asshole. Hacker News used to be cool.

terrapinbear 14y ago
Too bad you were never cool

terrapinbear 14y ago

GoDaddy struck me as smarmy. Good on Anon.

mediacrisis 14y ago
Anon is not taking credit for this one. ETA: Source- http://storify.com/poe/anonymous-lulz-and-godaddy http://storify.com/poe/anonymous-lulz-and-godaddy

cwb71 14y ago

For all the people recommending “use this thing instead, dummy!”: can you share evidence which supports the claim that your thing is less susceptible to a denial of service attack than GoDaddy’s? Because it seems like there are a lot of suggestions to move to alternate services that are in almost every case more expensive, but may or may not be any more reliable. It is well known that there are entities in control of botnets large enough to DDoS just about anything for some period of time.

samt 14y ago
It's a bit like choosing your local credit union instead of BofA. Go Daddy is too big to fail but there is no Federal Reserve backing them up.

Cerin 14y ago

You are a horrible person.

kposehn 14y ago

Ok, snark aside, I think you would have contributed better if you rephrased this: > If you are using GoDaddy for anything, you deserve what you get. If you are using GoDaddy for not just registration but also for DNS, I would just fix it as soon as possible and not tell anyone. ...to something like this: "GoDaddy has a history of not only being bad with customer support, but also being the target for many politically motivated attacks for business practices which are not forthright or above-board. If you use them for registration and DNS, you are likely to get burned, so I suggest moving to another provider in short order once this clears up." You could do a lot to benefit people without the vitriol, snark and associated venom.

billirvine 14y ago

Thousands of mid-sized to small business, run by people too busy to read hacker news or other sources of geekery, have no idea why they should consider not using GoDaddy. A response like this is part of the problem, and not even close to being a solution or advice.

ApsoFacto 14y ago
Spot on, Bill. My experiences with GD have been nothing but stellar... for the last ten years!
- ceejayoz 14y ago
  How on earth did you manage to avoid My Account for 10 years?

tubbo 14y ago

We are only using GoDaddy for email at this point. Hopefully, my bosses will see this as a final reason to move to Google Apps...