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FANG is not monolithic. Amazon is famously cheap. So is Apple in my opinion based on what I have heard (you get random refurbished hardware that is available no
by tgma 1y ago
FANG is not monolithic. Amazon is famously cheap. So is Apple in my opinion based on what I have heard (you get random refurbished hardware that is available not some standardized thing, sometimes with 8GB RAM sometimes something nicer) Apple is also famously cheap on their compensation. Back in the day they proudly said shit to the effect of "we deliberately don't pay you top of the market because you have to love Apple" to which the only valid answer is "go fuck yourself."
Google and Facebook I don't think are cheap for developers. I can speak firsthand for my past Google experience. You have to note that the company has like 200k employees and there needs to be some controls and not all of the company are engineers.
Hardware -> for the vast majority of stuff, you can build with blaze (think bazel) on a build cluster and cache, so local CPU is not as important. Nevertheless, you can easily order other stuff should you need to. Sure, if you go beyond the standard issue, your cost center will be charged and your manager gets an email. I don't think any decent manager would block you. If they do, change teams. Some powerful hardware that needs approval is blanket whitelisted for certain orgs that recognize such need.
Trips -> Google has this interesting model you have a soft cap for trips and if you don't hit the cap, you pocket half of the trips credit in your account which you can choose to spend later when you are overcap or you want to get something slightly nicer the next time. Also, they have clear and sane policies on mixing personal and corporate travel. I encourage everyone to learn about and deploy things like that in their companies. The caps are usually not unreasonable, but if you do hit them, it is again an email to your management chain, not some big deal. Never seen it blocked. If your request is reasonable and your manager is shrugging about this stuff, that should reflect on them being cheap not the company policy.
- laidoffamazon 1y agoHow do you know someone worked at Google? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you
- PartiallyTyped 1y agoNot sure what you are talking about re amzn. I have a pretty high end MacBook Pro, and that pales in comparison to the compute I have access to.
- tgma 1y agoThe OP was talking beyond just compute hardware. Stuff like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/womenintech/comments/1jusbj2/amazons_frugality_isnt_efficientits_dystopian/ https://www.reddit.com/r/womenintech/comments/1jusbj2/amazon...
- PartiallyTyped 1y agoThat’s fair criticism. I only corrected the hardware aspect of it all.
- sincerely 1y agoAll of OPs posts in that thread are blatantly Chat GPT output
- gruez 1y agoBecause.. em-dashes? As many others have mentioned, ios/mac have auto em-dashes so it's not really a reliable indicator.
- brookst 1y agoIt’s so annoying that we’ve lost a legit and useful typographic convention just because some people think that AI overusing it means that all uses indicate AI. Sure, I’ve stopped using em-dashes just to avoid the hassle of trying to educate people about a basic logical fallacy, but I reserve the right to be salty about it.
- FergusArgyll 1y agoI find adding some typos and 1 or 2 bad grammer things lets you get away with whatever you want
- skirmish 1y ago> 1 or 2 bad grammer things 1 or 2 bed gamer things
- fmajid 1y agoiOS development is still mostly local which is why most of the iOS developers at my previous Big Tech employer got Mac Studios as compiler machines in addition to their MacBook Pros. This requires director approval but is a formality. I read Google is now issuing Chromebooks instead of proper computers to non-engineers, which has got to be corrosive to productivity and morale.
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- walterbell 1y ago> Chromebooks ... to non-engineers "AI" (Plus) Chromebooks?
- SoftTalker 1y agoIf you're not a developer and everything you need for your job runs in a browser, what's wrong with a Chromebook?
- tgma 1y agoAnd has the upside of not having to force an antivirus or Crowdstrike or similar corporate spyware.
- tgma 1y agoGoogle issued Chromebooks are not crap with 2GB RAM and Celeron. There were even engineers who voluntarily preferred them. From a security standpoint they are superb.
- beachtaxidriver 1y agoGoogle used to be so un-cheap they had a dedicated ergo lab room where you could try out different keyboards. They eventually became so cheap they blanket paused refreshing developer laptops...
- walterbell 1y agoSome BigCos would benefit from <Brand> version numbers to demarcate changes in corporate leadership, culture and fiscal policy.
- toast0 1y agoYahoo was cheap/stingy/cost concious as hell. They still had a well stocked ergo team, at least for the years I was there. You'd schedule an ergo consult during new hire orientation, and you'd get a properly sized seat and your desk height adjusted if needed and etc. Lots of ergo keyboards, although I didn't see a lot of kinesis back then. Proper ergo is a cost concious move. It helps keep your employees able to work which saves on hiring and training. It reduces medical expenses, which affects the bottom line because large companies are usually self-insured; they pay a medical insurance company only to administer the plan, not for insurance --- claims are paid from company money.
- likpok 1y agoThe soft cap thing seems like exactly this kind of penny-foolish behavior though. I’ve seen people spend hours trying to optimize their travel to hit the cap — or dealing with flight changes, etc that come from the “expense the flight later” model. All this at my company would be a call or chat to the travel agent (which, sure, kind of a pain, but they also paid for dedicated agents so wait time was generally good).
- alt227 1y ago> sometimes with 8GB RAM Apple have long thought that 8Gb ram is good enough for anything, and will continue to for some time now.
- MonkeyClub 1y ago> Back in the day they proudly said shit to the effect of "we deliberately don't pay you top of the market because you have to love Apple" to which the only valid answer is "go fuck yourself." So people started slacking off, because "you have to love your employees"?