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I was always mystified about the value of Tesla stocks. The pe is still absurdly high and the market cap is bigger then probably all the big manufacturers combi
by FridayoLeary 1y ago
I was always mystified about the value of Tesla stocks. The pe is still absurdly high and the market cap is bigger then probably all the big manufacturers combined. It's obvious that people are investing in musk as a person. But there has to be a correction sooner or later. Tesla has value as a car company, but their first mover advantage is dwindling. Add to that musks politics and it's not surprising that the executives are reading the writing on the wall.
- foobarian 1y agoHe's been quiet lately, wonder if he's off quietly building a revenge party
- ec109685 1y agoHe gave up on that: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-political-party-jd-vance-2028-b2811019.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...
- apwell23 1y agohow do these ppl have so much energy. I am in early 40s and i feel like chilling whenever i can.
- 20after4 1y agoDrugs, most likely.
- sumedh 1y agoMotivation to get more power and money.
- marcosdumay 1y agoThey don't actually work.
- danielheath 1y agoPerhaps that’d be different if you could afford to have a team of doctors monitor your bloodwork etc and adjust medication to maintain energy, a personal chef consulting with them to ensure your meals help that, stylists to pick out tailored clothes for each occasion, regular massage, personal training, etc. They’re a different kind of rich that those who merely have a spare 30 million or so.
- apwell23 1y agoi do my annual checkup and my results are all in range ( except vitamin D that i take supplements for) Not sure what the benefit would be if i repeat those tests more frequently.
- danielheath 1y agoHaven't tried it myself, but from what I've seen it's pretty common for folks whose hormone levels are "in range" to report good results from HRT. I tend to think of "in range" as meaning "this doesn't indicate you're obviously-unwell". There's also a bunch of expensive-to-run tests which aren't included in an annual physical unless indicated by symptoms.
- XorNot 1y agoThey don't run their own lives. They have people to coordinate their housing, transportation and children. They don't cook or clean for themselves, they can simply rent out luxury accomodations wherever they land and if an idea hits them at any hour then some person is being paid to answer the phone and figure out what the heck it actually means they should do at 3am when they thought of it. And then when they turn up somewhere, they talk solely about how hard they worked before someone tells them their next meeting, where dinner will be tonight and here's your private driver.
- dzhiurgis 1y agoYou lack motivation, not energy. It’s pretty hard to get tired when you have variety of interesting projects (with humans or llm’s to aid you)
- crooked-v 1y agoThey had, and still have, an immense first mover advantage in the internals of EVs - look at some of the mechanic analyses/teardowns of Tesla internals and it's a night-and-day difference against other US EVs in terms of engineering around reliability, simplicity, and efficiency. But, they never actually followed that up with truly improving the the vehicle interior and all the other bits of build quality, and then doubled down with the Cybertruck, which has brilliant internals wrapped in bodywork that's impossible to clean and with trim that will literally fall off in the wrong weather.
- dchftcs 1y agoOne drawback cited consistently about Tesla cars is poor suspension. They may or may not have better design overall, and have better EV manufacturing than US competitors, but I don't see an "immense advantage" when they fail to address one of the things many users easily feel.
- kcb 1y agoThat was addressed with the Model 3 and Y updates.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 1y agoThere's also so much road noise. They designed the car bodies to be light for battery-related reasons, but in doing so, the cabins of even their luxury cars sound like budget economy vehicles.
- dchftcs 1y agoAlso one way Chinese EVs combat their efficiency disadvantage is fast charging and large batteries, and the charging cost is so negligible anyway that largely the user experience has been the same. Tesla has very little first mover advantage left against Chinese EVs, if any. It's sad that other Europe and US manufacturers haven't been able to be competitive, and probably Ford and GM will never be competitive because of protectionism.
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- D-Coder 1y agohttps://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/08/stock-market-theories/683780/ https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/08/stock-ma... If a lot of investors are in passive funds, they end up buying a lot of whatever is biggest... which drives up the prices... which makes those stocks bigger parts of the stock market... repeat until ???.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 1y agoRight now about 45% of the market is passively invested, and economists estimate you'd need 80%+ passive investments for active investors to reliably beat the market. We're not close to it yet.