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Meanwhile, who believes that the US has no backdoors in these devices?
by amelius 1y ago
Meanwhile, who believes that the US has no backdoors in these devices?
- johnisgood 1y agoHopefully no one, in services available globally (i.e. not US-specific), just to be sure.
- sedivy94 1y agoWhy litigate it when you can buy it from the NSO / IDF?
- philistine 1y agoCold logic dictates otherwise. The UK is part of Five Eyes: total data sharing between intelligence agencies. If that were the case, why would the UK need a law to get data it already has?
- kneegerm 1y agoSan Bernardino shootings smartypants
- Someone 1y agoIt wouldn’t need the law, but putting the proposal up and then, after the predictable backlash, retract it could be a ploy to make the criminals/us think they don’t have access to the data now.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y agoWW2, the Allies used all sorts of fake outs to lead the Germans to believe that the Enigma machine remained secure. Many people died for the sake of the secret. Given the lengths the government has gone to monitor its citizens, I could believe the technology stack has already been compromised.
- southernplaces7 1y agoUpvote from me. Your point is completely valid and simply stated, and yes, I agree that they very possibly could do exactly this sort of thing for the sake of play-acting a government blindness that doesn't really exist as such. Truly this site is crawling with anal-retentive man-children who downvote over any silly self indulgent bullshit they can think of.
- fsflover 1y agohttps://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2024/10/4.html https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2024/10/4.html https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveillance/ https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveil...
- sneak 1y agoIt’s not really a secret; it’s by design and it’s public. iCloud is not end to end encrypted by default. Apple and the state can read the on-by-default iCloud Backup which contains your iMessage sync keys and all your historical iMessages and attachments. iCloud Photos, Contacts, and Mail are all similarly not e2ee and trivially readable by Apple, DHS/FBI, and anyone else under FAA702 (aka PRISM, aka the #1 most used US intel source) without a warrant. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-apple-dropped-plan-for-encrypting-backups-after-fbi-complained-sour-idUSKBN1ZK1CO/ https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-apple-droppe... Apple processes FAA702 orders on upwards of 80,000 Apple IDs per year per their own annual transparency report. Snowden himself said that they see so many nudes that they got desensitized to it. This clever setup allows them to claim iMessage is e2ee while still escrowing keys in effective plaintext to Apple in the iCloud Backup, rendering the e2ee totally ineffective. I think “backdoor” is probably an appropriate term for it, but they have made no secret whatsoever of it. It’s terrifying to think that the US federal government can read every iMessage in the entire world across a billion devices (except China, where the CCP can do the same) in effectively realtime. The power that that enables (if only in blackmail ability) is staggering.
- staplers 1y agoallows them to claim iMessage is e2ee while still escrowing keys in effective plaintext to Apple in the iCloud Backup Does this also apply to their advanced data protection feature?
- intrasight 1y agoMy read is that it does not apply to ADP. Also, what regular criminal, let alone terrorist, would leave iCloud backup turned on after all the hacks and leaks over the years. I assume that most in the HN community, like myself, have iCloud backup turned off.
- sneak 1y agoCriminals (that get caught, or get put under surveillance) are generally criminals because they are stupid. I would venture a guess that almost all criminals have iCloud Backup enabled, because that is the default setting.