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I had been worried about what would happen as the American republic goes down, whether other countries would follow suit. So those two examples are cause for ho
by dimal 1y ago
I had been worried about what would happen as the American republic goes down, whether other countries would follow suit. So those two examples are cause for hope.
As for the second term, we can’t forget that the Democrats basically threw the election. This election was a layup. An easy win. And they did absolutely everything wrong. I almost blame them as much as Trump for this mess.
- senderista 1y agoWhen it comes to pleasing the base, or the voters, Democrats always choose the former. At least they can feel good about losing.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoI see so much hate for James Carville but he was right. Grocery prices affect more people than abortions so why the hell did Dems run on abortions?!
- mandeepj 1y agoThe other candidate went on stage and said - he’d lower the grocery prices on day 1, and then declares off-stage: once prices go up, they never come down . He told Palestinian-Americans in Michigan - he’d bring peace in Palestine. People were so desperate to hear what they wanted to hear - whether lower prices or peace back home. He sold lies to everyone; I don’t see Democrats doing that. Ironically, prices are comparatively high now and going to get even higher. You know the statements coming from Israel. I wish there was a way to challenge - these corrupt and lying politicians - in court. Unfortunately, currently, Supreme Court is compromised as well.
- Gud 1y agoThe democrats were rerunning Joe Biden as their candidate when he was obviously unfit mentally while they were claiming he was. They were also lying.
- UmGuys 1y agoUm. Tr*mp is the most unhinged and stupid person. He's never been able to form a coherent sentence and can only exist because he was born a millionaire. I always thought Biden was much smarter, well spoken, and honest than Tr*mp. Do you disagree?
- Gud 1y agoThe democrats ran with and lied about Joe Biden. That is why you now have an unhinged narcissist running the show.
- UmGuys 1y agoI disagree. We have Tr*mp because his team is able to successfully motivate angry, hateful, and scared people. There are a lot of these people, they are not smart, and they are mad. MAGA directs that anger. They simply figured out how to enthrall bad people.
- Gud 1y agoOk, I have a lot more faith in democratic processes. I fundamentally disagree with how the USA is run. I believe it needs to be dismantled and increase the democratic processes. I guess I would wish my state to secede, considering the current failure mode of the federal state, if I were American. This collapse has happened to every empire in history by the way. Or I would probably move to Mexico or Canada or something.
- UmGuys 1y agoYeah. It's tough for people as most don't even have the means to afford health care or a house. They can't simply relocate. Most Americans now live in fear of abuse. It's a shame.
- dimal 1y agoAll the Democrats needed to do was get 5% in the middle, not the core MAGA voters. There’s no way they could reach those people. Putting up Biden and then lying about his mental health destroyed their credibility. Even with that, Harris was within striking distance.
- nradov 1y agoLying is generally not illegal so the composition of the Supreme Court is irrelevant on that point.
- Zigurd 1y agoAre there any women on this thread? They might know the answer to your question.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoI didn't say it wasn't important only that it affects relatively few people compared to food prices. Everyone eats.
- Zigurd 1y agoEveryone has a mother. Most people have at least one of a sister, a wife, a daughter. But I would venture to guess that most people here think more about what Moldbug thinks about democracy, than what their sister might have to make decisions about.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 1y agoI don't like or follow Moldbug. Most women never have or need abortions so it doesn't affect them. Even if it affected every woman (half the population) food prices are still better to run on because everyone eats. I just agree with Carville that Dems can't make any change while losing so they should focus on winning.
- platevoltage 1y agoYou're not wrong. Biden, who is basically an unwrapped mummy at this point would have won easily if he handled Israel/Gaza with any sort of grace. All Harris had to do was challenge Biden's position on the issue, and not parade Liz Cheney out on stage like the "disillusioned Republican vote" was a real thing.
- Onawa 1y agoHarris would have had an uphill battle even if she had a full campaign cycle. After quizzing many conservatives, I unfortunately heard entirely too many responses of, "women leaders are unstable", "wouldn't be respected on the world stage", "she fakes her accent(s)", "I don't even know what she campaigned on", and other mind-boggling reasons they wouldn't vote for her. At this point, I have lost all faith in the American electorate to rise above bigotry and see past social media propaganda.
- RajT88 1y agoI have one conservative friend who insists she is stupid and has none of her own opinions (just a mini-Biden). Mind boggling indeed.
- mandeepj 1y ago> friend who insists she is stupid I believe she did great during her nomination acceptance speech and during debate as well. But, you can’t make people understand something if they don’t want to.
- platevoltage 1y agoI'm not her biggest fan, but yes, she did good in her debate and acceptance speech.
- Nursie 1y ago> has none of her own opinions (just a mini-Biden) She did mess up an opportunity to show that she wasn't just Biden v2 in an interview at some point, when asked what she might have done differently, there was nothing she could think of. Nothing at all. That was an open goal to differentiate that she missed. But I'm not sure it would have made a difference.
- dragonwriter 1y ago> As for the second term, we can’t forget that the Democrats basically threw the election. This election was a layup. An easy win. Good case for that in 2016, sure. 2024, not at all.
- platevoltage 1y agoWhen you’re marching one of the most hated republicans in the country around on stage pretending like it’s going to get you more votes, while kicking one of the most popular left-wing online voices out of your convention, I understand why people would get this impression. Dems would rather lose than cede any power at all to the left flank of the party.
- ethbr1 1y agoThe left flank of the party is the problem. Democrats would win more elections if they focused on economic issues.
- Zigurd 1y agoThe left of the Democrats are the people focusing on economic issues. I'm not just saying that to be contrary. The relevant economic issues are things like the decline of unionization and the divergence of wages from productivity and profit. Big money donors don't want you touching that.
- bearl 1y agoIf the left were really the left they wouldn’t be the left though. The NBC left is the problem, the Democracy Now left is not. The left doesn’t want Bernie, Chomsky or Amy Goodman they want The View. Turns out young men don’t want The View, so the left is stuck now much like the American right because there is no ideological coherence, just aesthetic and hatred for the other team however they are imagined (e.g. “tax and spend republicans”).
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