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> Copyright Crime Special Unit It's amazing that people have somehow been convinced that it's sane not only to throw others in prison for copying files but als

by ronsor 1y ago

> Copyright Crime Special Unit It's amazing that people have somehow been convinced that it's sane not only to throw others in prison for copying files but also to have special police for it.

amarcheschi 1y ago
Unless big tech does it I guess
- gosub100 1y ago
  "It's not copyright infringement! I'm just using it to train my neural networks with the information!"
  - slg 1y ago
    This quote is perfectly constructed to underline the hypocrisy considering this case is about pirating educational material. If pirating information is allowed when that neural network you are training is some LLM, why shouldn't it be allowed when that neural network is a human brain?
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    - BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
      Human brains are not created and owned solely by companies
  - timeon 1y ago
    "fair use" for corporations.
- komali2 1y ago
  That's easy: government should serve the needs of people, not companies. It's not hypocritical to want a different set of rules for companies.
  - whoopdedo 1y ago
    > a different set of rules for companies That is sort of the problem we find ourselves in.
kelnos 1y ago
I had the same thought. Those people could be put to so much better use, solving real problems that everyday people have.
- lostlogin 1y ago
  > Those people could be put to so much better use, solving real problems that everyday people have. You can apply that logic to large swathe of well paid jobs.
  - h2zizzle 1y ago
    This is why an economic crash is not necessarily a bad thing in the long run. It shatters calcified assumptions about what labor is valuable and presents an opportunity to redefine them. We keep putting the next one off, and the people working jobs that "should" have gone away keep moving forward in their careers, gaining seniority and higher salaries doing varyingly terrible and unnecessary work.
charlieyu1 1y ago
You would think we as a society should crack down harder on theft and robbery but here we are subsiding the rich on copyright laws
whycome 1y ago
Drug and Copyright Enforcement Agency? I always thought that one reason to go after marijuana was that it was something that one could easily "grow at home" -- eg, make a copy. Alcohol and hard drugs typically required a lot of equipment or expertise. ..and in a dystopian future there will be an agency to remove any unauthorized knowledge (gained from pirated sources) from ones' brain.
- trhway 1y ago
  >..and in a dystopian future there will be an agency to remove any unauthorized knowledge (gained from pirated sources) from ones' brain. as a preview - the similar is going to happen to the LLMs soon. Actually with growth of LLMs it may become unimportant what is in the actual biological brain of its user.
lisbbb 1y ago
The cyberpunk dystopia that 80s fiction authors prepared [some of] us for.
autoexec 1y ago
They've been getting away with it for ages. The RIAA even hired a bunch of ex-cops to act as goons, impersonate the FBI, and go on raids https://web.archive.org/web/20040209170528/http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/07/news-sullivan.php https://web.archive.org/web/20040209170528/http://www.laweek... I swear I've seen photos of them in their RIAA jackets too, but I can't seem to find any at the moment

by ronsor 1y ago

> Copyright Crime Special Unit It's amazing that people have somehow been convinced that it's sane not only to throw others in prison for copying files but also to have special police for it.

amarcheschi 1y ago

Unless big tech does it I guess

gosub100 1y ago
"It's not copyright infringement! I'm just using it to train my neural networks with the information!"
- slg 1y ago
  This quote is perfectly constructed to underline the hypocrisy considering this case is about pirating educational material. If pirating information is allowed when that neural network you are training is some LLM, why shouldn't it be allowed when that neural network is a human brain?
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
  - BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
    Human brains are not created and owned solely by companies
- timeon 1y ago
  "fair use" for corporations.
komali2 1y ago
That's easy: government should serve the needs of people, not companies. It's not hypocritical to want a different set of rules for companies.
- whoopdedo 1y ago
  > a different set of rules for companies That is sort of the problem we find ourselves in.

kelnos 1y ago

I had the same thought. Those people could be put to so much better use, solving real problems that everyday people have.

lostlogin 1y ago
> Those people could be put to so much better use, solving real problems that everyday people have. You can apply that logic to large swathe of well paid jobs.
- h2zizzle 1y ago
  This is why an economic crash is not necessarily a bad thing in the long run. It shatters calcified assumptions about what labor is valuable and presents an opportunity to redefine them. We keep putting the next one off, and the people working jobs that "should" have gone away keep moving forward in their careers, gaining seniority and higher salaries doing varyingly terrible and unnecessary work.

charlieyu1 1y ago

You would think we as a society should crack down harder on theft and robbery but here we are subsiding the rich on copyright laws

whycome 1y ago

Drug and Copyright Enforcement Agency? I always thought that one reason to go after marijuana was that it was something that one could easily "grow at home" -- eg, make a copy. Alcohol and hard drugs typically required a lot of equipment or expertise. ..and in a dystopian future there will be an agency to remove any unauthorized knowledge (gained from pirated sources) from ones' brain.

trhway 1y ago
>..and in a dystopian future there will be an agency to remove any unauthorized knowledge (gained from pirated sources) from ones' brain. as a preview - the similar is going to happen to the LLMs soon. Actually with growth of LLMs it may become unimportant what is in the actual biological brain of its user.

lisbbb 1y ago

The cyberpunk dystopia that 80s fiction authors prepared [some of] us for.

autoexec 1y ago

They've been getting away with it for ages. The RIAA even hired a bunch of ex-cops to act as goons, impersonate the FBI, and go on raids https://web.archive.org/web/20040209170528/http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/07/news-sullivan.php https://web.archive.org/web/20040209170528/http://www.laweek... I swear I've seen photos of them in their RIAA jackets too, but I can't seem to find any at the moment