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This is the time to cut back on h1b permits.

bsder 1y ago
Or, better yet, simply prevent any company who laid people off from being able to access any more H1-Bs for some number of years. You can keep your current H1-Bs, but no more for you for 5 years if you do a layoff.
- ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
  Not sure how that is better. Remove current H1Bs prior to any layoffs of US nationals.
  - Jcampuzano2 1y ago
    Both should be implemented. If you are laying workers off you clearly don't need additional H1B workers. You should be barred for at least a year if not more from putting in any applications for H1B after any major layoff. It should also be scrutinized if you preferably fire local workers over your H1B workers. Anybody caught doing so should be barred from H1B for a decade. I like my H1B coworkers, but things have gone too far. You can't do layoffs and simultaneously put in applications for thousands of H1B workers. It makes no logical sense and should be illegal. The system is completely broken right now. Not to mention most of this H1B work is not actually due to lack of local talent. Building a web or mobile app is not rocket science and there are plenty of people capable of doing so. Any company putting in H1B for anything but research positions or positions requiring exceptional expertise is probably abusing the system.
    - ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
      >Both should be implemented. Love your thinking here. Total agreement. And yeah I have had great experiences with my H1B coworkers, but they are doing jobs that US professionals could easily do. At this point H1Bs are just (possibly unwitting?) scab labor.
- hshdhdhj4444 1y ago
  There are already limitations on hiring H1Bs after layoffs.
- la64710 1y ago
  H1-b s are small compared to the offshoring of jobs. Have you seen the office sizes of every big and medium technology company in India and other countries? They employ thousands of programmers there. There is a much greater number of jobs that you don’t even see that’s get done from overseas. This invisible layer is much bigger than the annual 65k h1b jobs.
wnc3141 1y ago
I suspect this will become a key issue in Newsom's brand of center-left Democratic politics. It greatly affects both urban and college educated workforces - i.e the Democratic base. Canada took the lead here a few years ago under Trudeau's administration.

Or, better yet, simply prevent any company who laid people off from being able to access any more H1-Bs for some number of years. You can keep your current H1-Bs, but no more for you for 5 years if you do a layoff.

ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
Not sure how that is better. Remove current H1Bs prior to any layoffs of US nationals.
- Jcampuzano2 1y ago
  Both should be implemented. If you are laying workers off you clearly don't need additional H1B workers. You should be barred for at least a year if not more from putting in any applications for H1B after any major layoff. It should also be scrutinized if you preferably fire local workers over your H1B workers. Anybody caught doing so should be barred from H1B for a decade. I like my H1B coworkers, but things have gone too far. You can't do layoffs and simultaneously put in applications for thousands of H1B workers. It makes no logical sense and should be illegal. The system is completely broken right now. Not to mention most of this H1B work is not actually due to lack of local talent. Building a web or mobile app is not rocket science and there are plenty of people capable of doing so. Any company putting in H1B for anything but research positions or positions requiring exceptional expertise is probably abusing the system.
  - ahmeneeroe-v2 1y ago
    >Both should be implemented. Love your thinking here. Total agreement. And yeah I have had great experiences with my H1B coworkers, but they are doing jobs that US professionals could easily do. At this point H1Bs are just (possibly unwitting?) scab labor.
hshdhdhj4444 1y ago
There are already limitations on hiring H1Bs after layoffs.
la64710 1y ago
H1-b s are small compared to the offshoring of jobs. Have you seen the office sizes of every big and medium technology company in India and other countries? They employ thousands of programmers there. There is a much greater number of jobs that you don’t even see that’s get done from overseas. This invisible layer is much bigger than the annual 65k h1b jobs.

wnc3141 1y ago

I suspect this will become a key issue in Newsom's brand of center-left Democratic politics. It greatly affects both urban and college educated workforces - i.e the Democratic base. Canada took the lead here a few years ago under Trudeau's administration.