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Hmm anecdotally I’m seeing a lot of hiring in all places ranging from faang to startups. So tech hiring is not evenly distributed.
by nextworddev 1y ago
Hmm anecdotally I’m seeing a lot of hiring in all places ranging from faang to startups. So tech hiring is not evenly distributed.
- seanmcdirmid 1y agoIt could be FAANG retreating from HCOLs to LCOLs with the hope that they can make up the expertise gap with AI.
- rafram 1y agoUnless you can provide some evidence for that, it seems like pretty plain BS. The issues with outsourcing/offshoring were never the kind that can be solved with AI.
- vitaflo 1y agoIt’s pretty obvious the future is low wage devs using AI. It’s only a matter of time before US devs are squeezed out of the market.
- AstroBen 1y agoAI is good at low wage junior work, not senior work. It's the other way around
- __turbobrew__ 1y agoI believe you have it backwards, the future is having high wage devs use AI. Imagine a world where a single high wage devs with lots of experience can oversee say 10 AI agents. The boilerplate and grunt work can be taken care of by the agents and the human can refine the results as they know better than the AI and where the AI went wrong. If you stick a low experience human in front of an AI the human does not know if the AI is spewing nonsense and therefore sometimes you will get nonsense from the process.
- nextworddev 1y agoThis is a big part. Lots of rotating L6 and L7 with L4 and 5
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1y agoAre those job posts or actual hires?
- FollowingTheDao 1y agoYes, I was going to ask the same question. Article on the topic: https://www.apollotechnical.com/ghost-jobs-in-tech-why-companies-are-posting-roles-they-dont-plan-to-fill/ https://www.apollotechnical.com/ghost-jobs-in-tech-why-compa...
- Der_Einzige 1y agoThat's hiring for people with AI skills. If you're not in AI, you're fked right now.
- littlexsparkee 1y agoOr peripheral to it, e.g. data engineering for pre-training data or a joint DE/ML role, etc. Sometimes the scale (petabyte) or specific stack experience is a barrier.
- __loam 1y agoNot true. The people who are screwed right now are juniors. There's still a lot of hiring happening for traditional development.
- esseph 1y agoNot every business is in tech. Every business uses tech. R&D tax credit problem fixed, now development starts to get back on track at a lot of companies.
- Esophagus4 1y agoThere is definitely hiring going on, but having seen this now from the hiring manager side, companies are flooded with candidates because of all the tech layoffs. So yes, companies are hiring, but it’s hard to get hired right now because of the volume of candidates. Not impossible, but definitely harder.
- darth_avocado 1y agoIn my anecdotal experience hiring has been picking up but it seems that everyone expects the 2021 ZIRP economy where new grads were getting $200-300k offers with easy interviews. The experienced hire market is now back to where we were in 2015-2016 and new hire market slightly lagging behind. Unfortunately a lot of people will have to be comfortable working for non tech companies in tech roles like 10 years ago. It sucks because the living standards are more expensive than 10 years ago.
- nextworddev 1y agoThis is the right take, plus the glut of applicants.
- 999900000999 1y agoI just had to accept a keep the lights on offer. Still a software role, but I'm making what I was in 2018 without adjusting for inflation. 2020 I was making about 80k more, even though I got that job through a combination of networking and luck. My budget is less ball out and more it's nice I covered my rent
- scarface_74 1y agoMost developers have always worked for non tech companies…
- darth_avocado 1y agoI agree but that’s not the expectation a lot of people I meet have, especially new grads
- giantg2 1y agoI'm not seeing many jobs in my area for non-tech companies. The non-tech company is working for is outsourcing to India. I might be getting terminated soon and expect I will end up working retail. Nobody wants early career generalists.
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- scythe 1y agoI got my first (and only; I changed careers) tech job in 2014. I only learned years later that 2014 was considered a "down" year for the industry. The "job market" exists at the margins. If you're good, you get hired.
- rufus_foreman 1y ago>> If you're good, you get hired In the long term. But in the long term we're all dead. I only have one social media account, LinkedIn, and I have that account because I wanted to help people that got laid off from the company I worked for who were good, but were definitely not getting hired in 2008. There were developers who were top notch, but they weren't getting hired, they were sitting there not working getting poorer, frustrated and divorced. I'm on my last job so I have no idea what the job market is like now, don't know don't care, but no. There are times when even the best developers can't even get a phone interview.
- AstroBen 1y agoThis is why you should live below your means and save money when times are good. It's very possible, especially in the tech industry to get to a position where you can comfortably ride out a few years of a crappy job market
- littlexsparkee 1y agoYeah that was my M.O., had to step down a few months ago to take care of a mobility issue and I'm glad I planned for it.
- AstroBen 1y agoI got my start around then as a junior working fully remote with 6 months experience.. something everyone assures me is impossible Perseverance is the most important thing I think
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- bdcravens 1y agoIs it possible that the companies with cash to burn are trying to take advantage of the situation and swoop up talent on the cheap?