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> imagine that is going to be a controversial statement. not really but compared to what seems to be happened nearly daily in the US it really is not a big de

> imagine that is going to be a controversial statement. not really but compared to what seems to be happened nearly daily in the US it really is not a big deal but compared to what is supposed to happen it was a big deal which seems to be a common trend, being very pissed of about what happened in German politics, then looking to the US and being "they did what now!?", oh it seems things are still fine here

sho_hn 1y ago
Maybe pick a functional democracy as your yardstick?
- dylan604 1y ago
  Can you provide an example? Are there any left?
  - seadan83 1y ago
    France, UK, Norway, Spain, Canada.. here's your list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
    - dathinab 1y ago
      France is worse in the index. UK, Canada, Spain are similar ranked. Norway is better ranked, sure so are most other Nordic countries. But the difference between a (using their terms) "full democracy" and a noticeable better (in the index) "full democracy" is much less noticeable then the difference between a "full democracy" and a "flawed democracy". The other thing is that is a more then imperfect index. To be able to create such an index you need to select metrics and criteria which are strongly oversimplified. Weather or not this can lead to a bias. Also there is a time delay e.g. 2025 stats are not yet out. Anyway I'm really getting off topic. The more relevant thing is, that it doesn't matter too much if there are better (or worse) of countries in the index. What rally matters is that you see where your country can improve an try to push for it, even if it's just with voting, otherwise you will stagnate improvements once you reach a relative high standard.
nonethewiser 1y ago
>but compared to what seems to be happened nearly daily in the US it really is not a big deal Can you clarify what you're talking about? The most analogous situation I can think of is the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearing which is basically the complete opposite outcome. Tremendous pressure applied against his confirmation which ultimately didnt influence the outcome.

sho_hn 1y ago

Maybe pick a functional democracy as your yardstick?

dylan604 1y ago
Can you provide an example? Are there any left?
- seadan83 1y ago
  France, UK, Norway, Spain, Canada.. here's your list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
  - dathinab 1y ago
    France is worse in the index. UK, Canada, Spain are similar ranked. Norway is better ranked, sure so are most other Nordic countries. But the difference between a (using their terms) "full democracy" and a noticeable better (in the index) "full democracy" is much less noticeable then the difference between a "full democracy" and a "flawed democracy". The other thing is that is a more then imperfect index. To be able to create such an index you need to select metrics and criteria which are strongly oversimplified. Weather or not this can lead to a bias. Also there is a time delay e.g. 2025 stats are not yet out. Anyway I'm really getting off topic. The more relevant thing is, that it doesn't matter too much if there are better (or worse) of countries in the index. What rally matters is that you see where your country can improve an try to push for it, even if it's just with voting, otherwise you will stagnate improvements once you reach a relative high standard.

nonethewiser 1y ago

>but compared to what seems to be happened nearly daily in the US it really is not a big deal Can you clarify what you're talking about? The most analogous situation I can think of is the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearing which is basically the complete opposite outcome. Tremendous pressure applied against his confirmation which ultimately didnt influence the outcome.